What if i told you that on certain versions of minecraft upon being banned from the game not only can you no longer access realms or any multiplayer server ever again but you are no longer able to even play your own single player worlds what if i also told you that in the past Tens of thousands of players have been falsely banned or even shadow muted for months at a time with support not being able to do anything recently in a minecraft 1.19.1 snapshot mojang added the ability to report players messages it’s another change which seems to be following the trend of mojang upsetting The player base in what’s become known as the downfall of minecraft is this the dark scary future we may have on minecraft java where you can be false banned from all of multiplayer and may never even be able to touch your own single-player worlds again but wait how Can these bans even happen in the first place according to mojang’s official post about bedrock moderation mojang studios enlisted the help of moderators who work tirelessly to maintain minecraft’s welcoming environment these moderators have the power to ban players who send messages in chat which break their community guidelines on servers as Well as messages on signs and in books moderators can hand out permanent bans that extend to all versions of minecraft bedrock that’s right on different platforms as well and when a user is banned they receive a message telling them why they are banned as well as information on how they can cancel their Realm subscription if they happen to have one in theory this sounds fine lots of online games have chat reporting systems but in practice it hasn’t worked nearly as well but you know what is still working quite well my subscribe button help me get to 400k subs and get This little badge next to your name so i can see how long you’ve been subscribed no pressure of course so the first issue is of course the ban reason as displayed from numerous videos and posts online often there is no ban reason given you have been banned from Minecraft online you will not be able to plan servers join realms host or join multiplayer games use the marketplace why have i been banned when i click more info it just pulls up the website and it just shows the code of content it never said how it was banned or why it was Banned my main account for minecraft got banned for reasons uh i’ll display on screen right now but i do not know exactly what i did to be banned especially because i’ve watched what i’ve said in chats whether they did something deserving of the band or not isn’t the Issue here it’s the fact that microsoft don’t even tell you why you were banned all that you can find online is this one article titled why have i been banned from minecraft which just lists half a dozen generic reasons of which their highly trained moderation staff may have Banned you for fortunately there is a method of appealing but this is also issue number two there’s a good chance you still won’t explicitly be told why you were banned thank you for contacting us and apologies for the delay and getting back to you after reviewing your Account we have decided to reverse the permanent ban that has been placed on it well we cannot share specific details about your initial ban so what i think happened here is the highly trained moderation staff actually messed up a little bit and ended up banning a ton of people that didn’t Deserve it for the first two or three months after they introduced this new global banning system on bedrock the original article didn’t even have a clear method of appealing listed anywhere i contacted this video’s uploaded jetstarfish who told me he didn’t even find out he could appeal Until a viewer told him and still never found out why he was banned for multiple months you can see many comments on his video thanking jetstarfish for letting them know that they can apply for an unban not only was microsoft’s appeal system completely non-existent for the first few months the new global ban System was introduced but even now it’s still mostly hidden away and hard to find with many banned players not knowing what to do let’s move on to point number three now realms it’s crazy to me that after being permanently banned from the game unable to play multiplayer or realms on any platform That your realm subscription isn’t just automatically cancelled that’s right if you don’t manually go and cancel your realm subscription yourself you just keep donating a couple dollars a month to mojang why isn’t this subscription cancelled automatically is microsoft seriously going to keep charging you for a service so they deliberately prevent You from accessing and then finally banning from single player this is just outright disgusting and it’s interesting how little specific information there is on this from mojang officially according to users on reddit and twitter the single-player ban only applies to xbox and nintendo switch versions of the game still though banning somebody from Single player for their actions on a multiplayer server is outright disgraceful that basically renders you unable to play the game you paid for and speaking of single player well if you didn’t know on bedrock edition even in your own single player worlds with no moderation or anybody around certain Words on science in chat and in books are censored there’s no setting to disable this either why the hell does single player censorship even exist who are we going to be offending here and why isn’t there a setting to disable it i don’t think i’ve ever played a game That censors you in single player before bedrock players in the past have tried to post suggestions on minecraft’s official feedback website asking for moderation to be improved fixed or outright removed and in general everybody unanimously agrees the system is deeply flawed yet all their suggestions and issues have fallen on Deaf ears as not only does bedrock moderation still exist but it’s now coming to java all right so before we get into the new java changes i mentioned a lot about the global band system being deeply flawed and leading to a lot of false bans well Let me tell you about some examples back in 2014 minecraft pocket edition used to have a different account system where you could literally change your username in the settings that means that servers like cracked minecraft servers on java had to have a password registration and login system this system was very flawed And in 2016 lifeboat a popular server amongst pocket edition players had 7 million players passwords leaked eventually in 2017 when the better together minecraft update would release and bedrock versions became cross-compatible you now needed an xbox account to play pocket edition multiplayer and things were fine at First but as i’m the real annie told me was an active pocket edition player at the time after a few months players began noticing their chat messages were invisible to others it was like they had been shadow muted you can see various old posts and videos mentioning this one Video demonstrating what must have been a frustrating encounter with microsoft support where the support falsely states that this was an issue that wasn’t on their end but on the servers support even mentioned that the account had not received any punishments from microsoft after appealing on the mineplex bedrock Forums the user was then told that it wasn’t an issue on their end but rather on microsoft’s and once again after trying to contact microsoft and mojang for support they didn’t get anywhere you can even see old posts on the mineplex forums where players literally figured out exploits to get around the shadow Mute because so many people had been falsely muted and had zero luck with their appeals servers even had to put information in their faqs surrounding these shadow mutes mentioning that they couldn’t do anything about it because so many people were asking so not only did microsoft once again not provide any Punishment reason or in this case they didn’t even tell the player they were muted but their appealing process did not work at all this led to many innocent users being false muted for months on end with no method of being unmuted how appalling and unbelievably frustrating it got so bad that players Just decided to not use the chat due to fear of a mute or ban once again thanks to i’m the rule annie on twitter for the info global bans won’t work well for java either because unlike bedrock java has a variety of community controlled servers not a handful of official partnered ones In fact the first time players tried introducing global bands to minecraft multiplayer it was disastrous way back in early 2011 before minecraft bedrock existed before microsoft even owned minecraft the small community at the time developed a plugin called admin basically how it worked was if a player was banned from three servers Running mc admin that would be banned from all servers running the plugin globally like a three strikes and you’re out rule now can you guess why this didn’t work and was never tried again team avolition early notorious minecraft griefers were targeted by the plugins creator who threatened to put them on The global banned list so in retaliation they set up three servers themselves running mc admin remember unlike bedrock java multiplayer is entirely community run and anybody can easily set up their own server and banned a bunch of people from all three servers including the creator of mcadmin named darydian Himself now all these players were globally banned from all minecraft servers using mcadmin even better though they banned daridian and all the players on his server while they were actively playing leading to daridian taking mc admin down hilarious stuff so you can see why global multiplayer banning is significantly more difficult to achieve On java edition compared to bedrock it’s so much harder to moderate because there are just so many servers i have a private smp with friends where we like to mess around put stupid signs chat messages you know just have a bunch of harmless non-pg fun i’m telling you now That if i did the same stuff on my private smp with friends on a bedrock realm by bedrock standards there’s a really good chance i would have been banned by now when nobody was negatively affected at all or another example imagine you are playing minecraft factions or some other pvp game mode and You type in chat i’m going to kill you or kill him this could be interpreted as harmful conduct by the highly trained minecraft moderators and without the context of the game mode or server you are playing on what’s stopping them from banning you unlike bedrock edition which only has a Handful of official servers there are thousands upon thousands of unique java servers with their own one-of-a-kind game modes and plugins no minecraft moderator is going to know that the minecraft server egel.wtf is actually running factions with players pvp and if somebody is reported on there for typing i’m going To kill you or similar what’s stopping them from being banned from minecraft multiplayer as a whole look i’m not going to go through every case of somebody being full spanned because there would be too many but these issues still affect bedrock players to this Very day in fact just a few days ago i was casually browsing reddit and stumbled across this recent post from a user mentioning they were banned due to notorious figure supposedly the original poster typed kkk in chat in reference to a friend’s build of which was named Kingdom of koopa ki nobody was offended nobody was harmed it was on his own private realm and yet he was still banned no surprises the crappy minecraft subreddit moderators removed the post as well so about two to three weeks ago if you open the minecraft launcher you may have Seen this message on java realms there is now a profanity filter like bedrock has except at least these can be disabled after swiftly disabling it even though i’ve never touched realms in my life i posted to twitter mentioning that it wasn’t surprising after seeing the recent announcement of bedrock and java Being sold together by that i meant that it didn’t surprise me that some of bedrock’s less than desirable moderation features would now make their way into java because bedrock players gained access to this version then not even a week later in a minecraft 1.19.1 snapshot we got this it is now possible To report a player for sending abusive messages in the game chat unsurprisingly there was a lot of pushback from the java minecraft community who really disliked this big brother-like change servers had successfully dealt with chat moderation for more than a decade now and didn’t want or need mojang to Moderate the chat for them and i’m guessing mojang predicted this negative response as they mentioned they were looking for feedback regarding the chat reporting feature surely they would just listen to the negative outcry right well as i was making this video 1.19.1 pre-release one just released with this change listening to the Community huh mojang it seems they are going ahead with chat reporting the same way bedrock has where you could be banned from all minecraft multiplayer servers as a whole nobody is happy about this change as evidenced by the reddit thread announcing the update server owners including myself fear that they Can now be mass reported and banned from their own servers why should mojang even have any say in moderating a server you pay another external party for yourself anyways we pay the hosting fees therefore we determine what the server’s moderation and chat rules are following the vague nature of bedrock bands we Discussed earlier mojang didn’t even reveal much about how this new system would work on java leading players to dig through the game’s files to discover some of the most generic and vague banned messages possible are we going to see a repeat of the reasonless bans bedrock players have to deal with Minecraft java edition account migration faq minecraft java edition will stay exactly the same and we will continue to update and support it in the future yeah stay exactly the same about that we know from everything i’ve talked about in this video today that minecraft’s reporting and appealing system is deeply Flawed and if mojang used this same system on java as it seems it could be really bad can i no longer login to a public server without players reporting every message i send just because i’m a youtuber can i still mess around freely on my own private server with friends Without fear of being censored or banned from minecraft multiplayer as a whole is there a dark dark future where you could be banned from single player as well all i have to say is that this goes completely against everything the community wants appeases nobody and will only harm minecraft’s already growing Negative reputation it’s also worryingly continuing a trend of mojang ignoring the community we’ve seen from various videos how mismanaged bedrock is and all the issues it has are these issues going to slowly creep into java as well luckily us java players have options in fact only hours after the announcement Of minecraft pre-release 1.19.1 a mod was developed for fabric and forge which effectively disables message moderation and reporting the mod modifies chat messages so that they aren’t signed which basically means there’s no proof it was sent from your minecraft account i’m sure servers like my own will adapt These plugins or use other methods preventing mojang chat reporting as well as we aren’t official partnered servers and aren’t going to be forced to allow these methods like bedrock servers are furthermore if you want to let mojang know how you feel about this change go to the official feedback post i’ve Linked below and leave a comment so thankfully mods or plugins should have us covered even if chat moderation does make it into the game still it’s a very scary sign of what could be a dark future for minecraft be sure to subscribe and help me get the 400k thank You all so much for watching Video Information
This video, titled ‘Banned From Singleplayer? – Minecraft Java’s DARK FUTURE…’, was uploaded by TheMisterEpic on 2022-06-26 01:50:26. It has garnered 1117806 views and 61385 likes. The duration of the video is 00:14:29 or 869 seconds.
Recently, a chat reporting feature was added to minecraft java edition. Seeing the many issues bedrock has with reports and universal bans, could this be the beginning of a dark future for minecraft java?
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Minecraft 1.19.1 Feedback Thread – https://feedback.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/community/posts/7153579644685-Let-s-talk-about-Java-1-19-1-Release-Candidate-1-?page=1#community_comment_7161921490061
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0:00 – Intro 0:53 – How Can You Be Banned (Mojang Guidelines) 1:46 – Issues With Bedrock’s Ban System 5:21 – Pocket Edition Shadow Mutes 7:32 – The Failed Java Global Ban System 10:29 – New Java Chat Reporting Updates 13:31 – Anti-chat Report Mods/Plugins
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