Really quick before we get into this video this is a part two to a previous video with a lot of information that this video will heavily rely on I recommend going back and watching that first video to make sure you have all the context you need for this one guys I’m not joking when I say I have no idea how this is even possible but the or spawn drama is even worse than I realized like like a lot worse as surprising as it may seem I’ve somehow managed to uncover even more we didn’t previously discuss with Richard Clark Also known as they call me danger as well as some information on many of the previous members of his development teams along with this we’ll also cover some points made by others in the comment section of part one a massive credit for this portion goes to ya who Reached out to me after my previous video I actually did manage to speak to qara a little bit however it’s possible I may find out more from them in the future as they’re a pretty busy person and their time to work on this project has been pretty Limited to begin the drama of orpa actually predates just the qara related drama we can trace it all the way back to 2019 when Minecraft saw a massive Resurgence due to PewDiePie starting a Minecraft series this also led to people who used to play or spawn going back and Asking danger about its status of course at this time was when the downloads for orpa were completely offline and not available I was given some screenshots of YouTube comments from Richard’s videos that I actually didn’t originally see these are by no means surprising but do give us a better look into what the Start of the Spiral 4 danger looked like he starts by responding to someone saying he refuses to sell his soul to Microsoft who he equates to the devil honestly he’s not entirely wrong about this but it’s funny nonetheless in his following responses he primarily talks about how modern Minecraft specifically Citing 1.12 was an unstable mess however in one comment he specifically mentions how they keep changing the apis for modding in Java programming these are typically referred to as interfaces however this seems to be danger misplacing part of his blame here while yes some core interfaces of Minecraft Were changed especially in 1.8 when items and blocks as well as some other mechanics now each had to have their own Json file containing information in regards to things like models and textures which does add a level of complexity that wasn’t in versions like 1.6.4 many of the API changes are Actually a result of changes to the forge API not ones put in place by a now Microsoft owned Mojang danger does go on to claim 1.6.4 was the best version for modding he also mentions he will be busy in the coming months due to him moving as well as him Citing that his son was starting High School Richard was also talking about wanting to teach his son coding the last comment cited is him saying that once Minecraft becomes quote community property again he’ll reconsider his decision I feel like it’s important for me to add here that I don’t personally Think danger is completely wrong here I do actually have some personal modding experience with Minecraft but most of it is post 1.8 and Forge is pretty much a hot dumpster fire at this point so if I ever do make a mod again I will be exclusively developing for fabric and That drama could be a whole video on its own moving on as the issue of Richard not wanting to update or spond to 1.12 continued this is when other developers began to step in and take their stab at it this is when a fan-made Port known as Insanity craft began development a port I was actually unaware of before this they did not get very far into development primarily basic blocks items tools and armor this was of course before danger caught wind of their existence Richard took some extreme actions against this threatening legal action claiming they were taking someone else’s work and modifying it without Their permission the biggest issue with this was the fact that some of the insanity craft devs were under 18 according to biker bones one of the insanity craft developers danger quote basically pitched a fit about the artwork and claimed his daughter made the textures the main issue here is However that Insanity craft was 100% original code and all of the artwork was also completely original all the while Richard continued to get more and more comments asking for an or spawn update leading to him getting more frustrated it got so bad he eventually had to disable comments on some videos I’m Going to say now that if you were one of those people who harassed Richard about an or spawn update with this level of hostility you’re absolutely not innocent in this situation and everything that’s happened here just saying he responded to this with another comment stating yeah it’s sure true but Richard is Utilizing mojing as a sense of advertisement for his discontinued or spawn mod to gain these players to play his game correction I’m I’m using or spawn as help to advertise my game I wrote it I earned it nothing wrong with that and you know I’m 60 years old I Have exactly Z in retirement do you really have a problem with me trying to make a couple bucks before I’m too old and have to sleep on the street buger off already sheesh I’m taking or spawn into VR and hoping to make some money there perhaps I’ll take it into Android And iPhone land too the point is that it’s mine and I gain absolutely nothing from updating it into the latest version of minecft CFT not going to happen I’ve put a massive amount of work into or spawn now it’s time for it to help me Not starve to death get over it this was subsequently followed by his announcement video in July of 2020 that he would be seeking developers to help update orpa to 1.12 finally caving to the comments asking him to as mentioned in the previous video the stipulation is That he would have to charge for the mod around $5 to access the premium Club version which would contain things like private chat access early mod access and exclusive features danger believed quote should not be given to Microsoft Danger’s first real troubles with this started when he later claimed he would need roughly $75,000 to fund the or spawn update to achieve this danger actually started to GoFundMe page with a goal of the same value obviously many fans were displeased with this however some did donate amounts ranging from 5 to $100 typically with high hopes that or spawn would be available for newer versions in The near future after a few days of the GoFundMe being up with barely any donations received danger lowered the goal to $45,000 which is still an absurd amount of money to update a Minecraft mod that’s already had free fan remakes in the works however danger didn’t lower The amount of money because he felt like $775,000 was necessary no he lowered it because and I quote people are being stingy with their money before we dive any deeper into this 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the opportunity to promote a product that I wouldn’t Promote it unless it was something that I genuinely would use myself and I’m sticking to that thanks to dubby for supporting my channel now let’s get back into the video around this time following the disaster that was Richard’s GoFundMe fundraiser the new official or spawn Discord server was Created I touched on this briefly in a previous video but I did not have nearly the level of information access that I do now most of the drama surrounding this Discord server came from two individuals one known as wisy the demon and one known as canera the great and Just to clarify as well canera and qara are not the same person this was also around the same time that qara actually started their original Port of or spawn which at the time was actually called danger zone obviously in reference to Richard’s game for context as far as I’m aware This was later renamed to something like craft Zone before eventually getting renamed to adventurecraft which I mentioned in part one as frustrating as this was for Clark and the orpa dev team legally speaking the danger zone mod team was not technically in the wrong as it was completely original code this was When the decision was made that anyone supporting the danger zone mod Port by qara would be banned from the official orpa Discord server without any second thought another piece of information I’d like to clarify really fast is when Richard Clark took the original downloads for 1.6 and 1.7 offline this Was because he believed the new Minecraft Ula would allow Mojang and Microsoft to take content of his game and implement it into Minecraft without any form of credit while yes technically the updated Ula would allow them to do this I highly doubt mojing would have any interest in adding Mobzilla into Vanilla Minecraft this led Richard supporters primarily YZ to encourage everyone on the disc server to do what they can do to take down any available versions of the mod including Mass reporting websites like 9 Minecraft and aternos which hosted mod packs containing or spawn these attempts did Ultimately fail but it was clear their intention was to wipe the old or spawn downloads off the map this did even lead to YZ asking people to make several atos accounts in an attempt to try and take the entire site down this of course failed after a few months danger did Eventually give in and put the download links back online as we covered in the previous video though this didn’t last very long when development versions of the Minecraft or spawn update began Richard knew he couldn’t completely pay wall the mod as that was at this point also against Minecraft’s Ula to get around this Richard would leave the royalty primarily the king the queen their designated structures as well as the prince and princess pets only in the development releases of the orpa update which he did pay well meaning users would be able to gain access to some Features for free for example something like Big Bertha but not the full mod unless they paid the $5 to gain access this was of course until qara leaked this build in their own Discord server this was a major Tipping Point for danger being when he released the video Asking for information on qara in an attempt to dockx him in my previous video I mentioned that this seemed like a doxing attempt but I had no real official confirmation well according to Y Richard openly used the term docs in reference to qara before backtracking and saying he quote wasn’t doxing by the Dictionary definition however this is as far as I’ve been made aware a flat out lie according to qara himself danger and the members of his Discord leaked katara’s real address email and public personal Facebook profile but claimed they didn’t actually dox anyone because it was all public information I didn’t Originally include this message in the video primarily because it was late in the production of episode 1 as well as the fact that I wanted to gather more information on backstory in regards to this especially from different perspective is than what one person would have been able to give me Following this video being taken off the website Danger’s Discord account was actually terminated by Discord safety team which I believe should be for obvious reasons he did make an ALT account to continue working within his Discord server though it was also around this time that YZ was actually fired From the project due to starting too much drama he was not actually heard from again after this happened this is now around the time when Richard’s original Discord rant was posted to his website this was was actually due to the Discord safety team terminating not only his account but the entire or spawn Discord server allegedly following this event Danger fired all of his old development team I’m not able to corroborate this but I was provided this screenshot this is when the three different discords were created the first dying after only 6 days as allegations started popping up that Canero one of the admins of the server had been sending NSFW content to miners I’m not joking how does this keep getting worse dude anyway danger in an attempt to save the situation tried to pin the blame on qara canera then posted a link to a doctor screenshot of qara Sending NSFW content to a Discord user this was confirmed to be fake due to the corner of the image being sharp rather than the curve that Discord renders images with typically in early January 2021 canera announced that anyone who was supporting qara and their support of the or spawn mod would be immediately Banned stating if you support cat in any way you will be banned from all orpa servers I suggest you stay on the right side or goodbye danger updated the orpa website to now have three Discord servers once again with rules including never questioning mods he also added a Fourth Discord server known as the white Knights of or spawn not only did I not even know that the server existed I was actually given access to it by yeah before we continue our even deeper dive into this I’d like to take a moment to ask you to subscribe to my channel And like this video if you’re enjoying it so far the support on my channel has been absolutely insane since the last video and I really can’t thank you guys enough anyway let’s get back into it this white night server was created to try and get katara’s Port mod cancelled Completely along with this inside the Discord was a link to another Discord known as the Dead Rose project with the goal of gathering in as much dirt on qara as possible according to Y most of their evidence was a pretty big stretch and didn’t really lead to anything for Example they claimed katara’s stolen Emerald pickaxe texture I can’t say for sure but here they are side by side let me know in the comments if you think this was stolen the one on the left is the original and the one on the right is the one from qatar’s Mod I believe this Did actually finally hit a Breaking Point canera announced they were quitting Discord completely primarily due to the drama that was happening at the time this led to the deletion of cana’s orpa Discord server leaving only two active servers for orpa once again however this ended up partially being a Lie and canera continued to be active on Discord following this upon updating the orpa web page to remove the now deleted server this is also when danger added the page on how to properly and easily win against the bad guys asking users to make alternate Discord accounts to raid Katara’s server hey everyone editor Connor here I want to add some more information I received after the rest of the video was recorded due to it happening around the same time qara got me in contact with another person atheria capre apologies if this is not pronounced correctly atheria capre who All refer to as pair ran a town Earth server that used or spawn and called it lad Earth the server started in 2020 sometime around October following its creation canera began endorsing it as the official orpa Minecraft server without Danger’s permission around a week after this according to pair canera then sporadically banned Around 80% of the server’s members and according to pair essentially threw them under the bus perir managed to get the Towny project going again eventually and then around January of 2021 similar in vain to canera qara also Mass banned several members from their server which per says qara will openly admit to However this was nowhere near the same degree as what canera did danger officially made PA server part of the orpa server list on the website which we can actually see in the orpa website archives that following summer pair decided to update the server to 1.16 and an argument began on whether They should use chaos awakens or adventurecraft which at the time was still referred to as craft Zone PA decided to put it to a vote another user known as random who I believe may be the same person as Lewis Randomness tried to rig the vote in favor of chos awakens The reason this was such a controversial issue is Lewis Randomness is one of the authors of chaos awakens eventually they decided to just have both mods available on the server which random hated qara actually liked this decision and began to participate in the server as well pair followed this by also Mentioning they were one of the texter artists for both craft Zone and Chaos awakens however chaos awakens then banned pair from their own Discord Community with their reasoning being that they were working with qara per eventually distanced themselves from the lat Earth Project and got in contact With another user for me known as Saum what I have here is only a short message from them but I may get more information in the future according to Saum they only had a few conversations with danger and stated that talking to mods in the server was actually quite Difficult one in particular was extra hard to work with and even sent nude photos to Saum in an attempt to harass them danger of course defended this mod including what Saum describes as goose hunts to get people off her tail all of this was in spite of Saum being a donor To the orpa project giving over $25 which was five times the average at the time and even then Saum was still banned for talking to qara personally I believe that this mod may be canera however that hasn’t been confirmed by sacrum for me yet but I may Include that in a Future Part three if I end up with enough information to make one I’m going to transition here by reading a quote from y verbatim nobody in this entire situation was entirely in the right Danger made a lot of bad decisions but qara of the Danger zone mod also made some poor decisions danger was basically forced to work on a project he didn’t want to work on by thousands of demanding fans and the extreme choices were to be expected danger let greed consume his causes threatening longtime fans and scaring away new ones the direction the orpa Name has been taking has not been an easy one and the future of the mod on Minecraft is very dark at this point moving on let’s take a look and go over some things I saw people mention in the comments of part one that I believe should be addressed or things that I Found interesting one really quick one I saw a lot of people talking about was referring to qara as her but I think this is really just because of the screen name qara according to Discord bios qara uses he him or they them pronouns not really an issue I just Figured it could help for the sake of context in some situations along with this I saw an astounding number of people comparing danger to Terry Davis the creator of Temple OS who struggled with mental health issues for most of his life and was well incredibly deranged I don’t Think this was a completely false assumption but I also don’t think they’re identical for one danger doesn’t seem to have any kind of paranoia disorder like schizophrenia while I’m not by no means a psychologist a psychoanalyst of any kind I believe Clark suffers from narcissism or even narcissistic personality disorder to a Pretty intense degree especially in certain instances his belief that everyone and everything is out to steal his mod seems to show that especially in his unjustified belief that Mojang and Minecraft devs are going to steal the content of his mod as absurd as I find this situation and dangerous Behavior I Do sincerely hope he seeks the help that he so desperately needs many people also commented on on the fact that danger recommended users to switch to Linux this is somewhat surprisingly something I actually 100% agree with Danger on Microsoft Windows especially Windows 11 does not care about your privacy at all and is Significantly more resource demanding than Linux if you’re technically knowledgeable enough to use Linux I highly recommend you do so I personally dual boot Linux specifically in deor OS and windows 11 this is because I use Premiere Pro to edit my videos currently which does not support Linux at the Moment I do however find it interesting that Richard pushes danger zone and Linux due to their open source nature but then gets angry when others try to use or remake or modify the content of his modding game I also had a couple people mention I should cite my sources For the video and I absolutely agree with them I originally intended to when I uploaded but forgot while I was in the process of uploading the video I’ve gone back to part one and I’ve added a link to a document with all of my sources cited they’re also in apa format because I’m cool like that and I don’t want to be like some other YouTubers this video will also have sources Linked In the description below as well for anything else I may have mentioned however most of what is mentioned here deserves specific credit to you as this video would have been impossible without this Level of information they gave me I’d also like to thank qara as they also provided me with lots of information that was useful to this video moving on I had some people ask about safe ways to download orpa for Minecraft now or Alternatives by far the best I can Recommend is chaos awakens which I’ll leave a link in the description for as well it’s currently available only up to 1.16 but they do have plans to update it to newer versions once the mod is a little bit more stable I don’t recommend finding a download to the original orpa Mod as many websites that host it now contain malicious ads and could contain malicious modified copies of the mod itself finally I want to end this off by asking all of you your personal stories with or SP did you watch crazy craft videos as a kid did you ever have Experiences playing with or spawn in any way maybe you even had experiences with danger himself in one of his Discord servers let me know in the comments I really love hearing about how this mod has impacted you guys and what conclusions you’ve drawn from yourselves about these videos thanks for watching And I’ll see you guys in the next one oh you’re still here cool I just wanted to let you know I have a Kofi page that you can support me directly from 100% of the Revenue goes directly to creators when you use Kofi I don’t currently have membership tiers of any Kind but if it’s something you guys are interested in let me know it could be things like an exclusive Discord server Early Access to videos or things like that let me know and I’ll look into making it as worth it and as awesome as I can for you guys and no I’m not going to charge you $5 for early access to a decade old mod A Video Information
This video, titled ‘The Orespawn Drama Keeps Getting WORSE…’, was uploaded by Straunge on 2023-12-27 20:00:06. It has garnered 60770 views and 3789 likes. The duration of the video is 00:24:11 or 1451 seconds.
Today we continue our deep dive into one of the most complex dramas I’ve ever seen in the Minecraft community, revolving around Orespawn and its developer, TheyCallMeDanger. In part 1, we covered primarily the archived forms of Danger’s website and the perspective we were able to get from him. Today, we will go over more of the “behind the scenes” drama, primarily the war Danger and his supporters waged on Discord against Katara. Major credit for all information in this video goes to YuH, this video would not be possible without them. Credit should also be given to Katara, Etheriacaprae, and Sacreum for their contributions and and stories related to this that they provided me with.
Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN6YxwlfLpQ
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