Unlocking Level 444 Secrets in Minecraft Skyblock!

all right uh sorry about that I need to do that real quick so I could go ahead and download that VOD so I can eventually upload it wait what that [ __ ] not offline go offline oh my god dog dog this video was 30 minutes also hold on give me a second now the stream ain’t bugged I uh I ended it and started it real quick so um um what is it [ __ ] is it I did that so I could uh you know uh download the VOD make it easier um also who was that [ __ ] that said that this [ __ ] not working what the [ __ ] are you done with dating questions uh maybe also why the [ __ ] is my chat thing not popping up hurry the [ __ ] up bot rcks all right there we go I can show that in a bit but uh Doom VES if you’re still here yeah I want to do a I want to do a video on uh our boy uh [ __ ] is his name Genesis ghg that’s my goat the king of M6 whenever I eventually edit that I’ll probably do it to where like genesis ignore added my friend so what happened was we were doing M6 this was before I hit cat of 50 I uh I was like cuz I didn’t realize because I remember before I hit cata 50 I’m like dog this guy’s such a high cata why the [ __ ] are these runs so slow and then somebody told me to look at his run Secrets per run and I was like oh my God and uh after that he uh what is it or my friend asked him he’s like hey man what’s up with your uh secrets for run he’s like oh I usually just blood camp like oh okay so I was Mage so I blood camped at the end of The Run he had two secrets and so friend asked yo you weren’t blood camping why the [ __ ] did you have two Secrets he left the party and then posted in public chat you have just ignore added blink that was probably the funniest [ __ ] ever ignore added by the goat the old or something hold on he like he’s kind of 61 oh it went up yo shout out Genesis that still ain’t good but see all he does is m6 I mean if he likes that floor the most [ __ ] it shout out to him but not only three Secrets per run but it’s uh he has 55,000 Secrets like at that point I genuinely would have to ask him are you mentally disabled like unironically not even joking it’s like dog how the [ __ ] you only get three secrets to run if you’re lagging sure [ __ ] it why not but there’s no way that’s it I refuse to believe that hey why’ I have that disabled oh that might be why I wasn’t getting uh he is yeah I I kept being like dog why the [ __ ] are we getting such low runs we have a cat of 60 in here cuz I wasn’t even really questioning why he was in there I was just like oh that’s genis or I’m like oh that’s a highle player I guess he doesn’t want to do like regular [ __ ] right now I guess or whatever cuz I’m trying to make excuses that’s just goat yeah that r a r r e e guy is still it still stun locked me I’m I’m not going to lie I don’t know what the [ __ ] that profile was but that was the some of the craziest [ __ ] I’ve ever [ __ ] seene uh larus wait hold on no not that uh I’m going try to see if I can find another a video for us to watch for the time being oh yeah we did oops oopsy Poopsy my bad my fault apologies oh jizzel uh e and the finies that is registered as Canon unfinished Vault also known as the fake vault 13 like many of the vaults on this list this Vault never really came to fruition instead it was just a cave which was to be the construction site of a vault that was never numbered whil it is evident that the does not exist one man named MC within the NCR convinces people all over that he knows of Vault 13’s location and will sell the hollow disc with it for $1,000 on it however is just a blank cave where this unfinished Vault was to be built officially labeling this site as the fake vault 13 who knows what voltech planned here maybe it was more drug experiments maybe it was another cloning facility to make more Gary clones to take over the Wasteland maybe it was more f but one thing is for certain if this Vault ever did get finalized knowing vaultex history you know it was probably going to be bad news but whoever ended up there and now after covering all of the ones from the mainline games we have the non Canon and cut volts which are ones that were either meant to be in the base game themselves as part of canell video games and some that are part of the exended universe but are not cannon in the slightest as they are part of an alternate timeline or other things we start off with Vault zero W Vault zero was part of the fully released Fallout tactics game back in 2001 by interplay and Bethesda its law and everything within the game is still listed and labeled as non Canon by Todd Howard himself mainly due to how it changes some of the things set up in previous games whil not all of it is seen as non Cannon volt zero is listed as such and continues to be a talking point within the community about whether it should be or shouldn’t be volt zero was created within Colorado and was said to be the main hub for all the vaults around the country the nucleus of the entire Vault Network some would say it was said that when the outside world needed to be rebuilt bolt zero with its incredible machinery would execute The Exodus protocol reuniting the vs and would start taming the outside wait do y’all even want to watch this part cuz it’s not a part of the Cannon thing it’s just random ones yeah I’mma just I’mma put on another video this is one of my favorite videos of all time oh oh sweet uh oh sweet thank you for typing again bye I don’t know who the [ __ ] that boy think he was he came My Stream how how much money you make an hour he’s like can we quit talking about this and get back the game play [ __ ] all right so I don’t know if y’all know about H bomber guy yeah I don’t like I said I don’t know if you’ve consumed any media in the last 70 years there’s a good chance you’ve heard this voice this sound man being eaten by alligator was recorded for Distant Drums in 1951 for a scene where a guy randomly drowns all by himself this recording then became part of the library of sound effects people at Super waro Brothers used another screen from that recording then appeared in 1953’s the charge at Feather River where a certain private willhelm gets shot by an arrow they also use it two more times in the same movie sound designer Ben Bert noticed this reuse and started reusing it himself in student films because he thought it was funny as a silly little joke he hid it in the background of a bee movie he was hired to work on oops looks like culture’s been changed forever Bert had accidentally started a career long running joke in his big cameo in Jedi he does an impression of the scream when he gets killed by an OSHA violating guard rail then other people started using it too and now it’s everywhere getting in on someone else’s in joke kind of risks ruining it but I wouldn’t know anything about that and there’s a bunch of other iconic screams like this oh Jesus Christ like with Wilhelm the source of these sounds are usually well documented that scream comes from a popular sound effects library and while we’re ruining things those sheep/ goats screaming like a human videos you love so much yeah they’re all fake that’s just a sound that comes free with Apple software you’re welcome but for over a decade one sound’s original Source was unknown this one this is all over internet video nowadays but where’s it from most people under a certain age are yelling Roblox at the screen right now Roblox is a free online game/ platform people can make additional content and games for and they can even monetize what they make for a a pittance according to YouTube journalists people make games Roblox developers receive less than 25% of the money from sales of content they make this has led to the ROBLOX Corporation attaining a net worth of roughly seven quad billion dollars and one of if not the most iconic things about this game is its death sound effect also known as the Roblox oof videos of just this sound get millions upon millions of views it has its own separate existence as a meme across thousands of videos and one video claiming to be its origin has 117 million views shockingly close to the lifetime views of my entire Channel this sound effect is a phenomenon but it’s not from Roblox and this child is a liar now I haven’t played Roblox I play mature games for grown-ups like fortnite when I was the age Roblox would have definitely controlled my life it was instead being controlled by stop motion animation and then later by Gary’s mod a game which did not monetize its content in increasingly horrifying ways transforming its Community into a digital sweat shop but I’m sure the new way is fine too so no I haven’t played Roblox but I have played messiah messiah was released in the year 2000 and developed by shiny entertainment they made Path of Neo so they’re insane and I love them you play as a cute little cherub named Bob who gets blasted down to earth to help out this is the best opening cut scene ever Bob has no combat abilities whatsoever instead though he can possess other people I’m a c you know in real life a huge portion of the Angels who come to earth end up in the bodies of police officers it’s true Google 40% cops Bob can possess basically any living thing they get delayed again or what including rats when the developers feel like making you save scum the player is constantly switching bodies using their different abilities credentials and weapons the pacing is break neck because doing so doesn’t slow you down I played messiah in the mid when I found it in a Christian charity shop I assume they didn’t see the words sex religion possession death on the cover and then I threw it away I bought this copy on eBay to use as a prop I have to get this out for the rest of the video now then a decade passes and in a random YouTube video I hear a familiar sound people tell me it’s from Roblox but I swear I’ve heard it somewhere else obviously I immediately forgot about it and moved on with my life until 2019 when someone else figured it out user plasma node on Reddit was watching the ending cin atic on YouTube for some reason and noticed a very familiar [Music] sound he posted his discovery on Reddit along with a clip from the ending someone stole and reposted his clip on Twitter a large Roblox YouTuber made a video about that tweet and then journalists started picking up on it although the Articles do credit the wrong person with the discovery because their one source is a video that got it wrong why did the sound get so popular anyway well if TV has taught me anything children being injured is just universally funny let’s not think about what that says about us here’s an interesting fact which I hope justifies me playing the entire game in preparation for this video everyone involved seems to think the sound effect is specifically in the ending but it’s actually all over the game you can fly around and flap your little wings to float and whenever you slam into a wall Bob makes a noise and that’s one of the noises it’s also in the opening cut scene too it’s kind of funny it was discovered in the ending the last possible place you would hear it if you played the game interestingly enough there was proof in Roblox the sound was from Messiah all along and no one thought to check you see sound files have this thing in them called metadata it’s extra information that comes with a file you know album they better be buffing the armor supposed to be better than it’s supposed to have more magic find than everything else they better [ __ ] buff it get rid of the pet luck I don’t care list of the artists and people who worked on it and so on you know those pirated Weird Al Yankovic albums your friend gave you when you were 14 that’s why the album art was in there it was in the metadata I think that anecdote might be a bit too specific the o sound in roblox’s game files uh. wav has metadata in it saying it was made in 1999 while Messiah was being made with the engineer listed as Joey kurus Joey kurus is an extremely prolific video game sound designer he’s worked on Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater Spider-Man Gears of War and even fortnite that clip I showed earlier that wasn’t just me showing off my sick skills that was a clever setup for this bit no it wasn’t actually I wrote a fortnite joke and then it turned out he’ worked on fortnite but still and here’s Joey on page xxxvi of messiah’s manual as one of the sound effects guys see look see I don’t have a camera person this time so I’ll have to cut to a closeup that I shot later Rachel I don’t all I heard is that it’s going to have be the best magic find set everybody that had to pay 10 bill for their Clover helm it’s moding meanwhile I bought mine for 1.8 bill so I don’t give a [ __ ] stop responding when she found out what the video was about so there we go we know where the sound effect was from we even have a good idea who might have made it mystery solved we can all go home to our families just kidding there’s more that’s only the beginning of the story you worm can’t can’t say that we haven’t even talked about who owns the sound effect yet it doesn’t belong to Joey it belongs to the company he was working for when it was made Tommy tallarico Studios along with its owner Tommy I don’t need to say his name this he named a studio after himself does it big dub hold on why can I not download this one yet what the [ __ ] um thank you to whoever said that H God is good I think Tommy Taro is a veritable video game industry icon according to the first line of his biography on his website I wouldn’t personally go that far but he was a fairly well-known musician and composer for video games in the90s and 2000s his most notable soundtracks include earthworm gym MDK and Advent Rising his company was involved with the sound effects on lots of other games from this period too that’s why if you’re my age or older this is burned into your brain Tommy Tarico Studios he was also on TV on the show’s Electric Playground and Judgment Day some of the earliest shows about video games reviewing new releases and interviewing developers if you were around for a certain era of game history you remember Tommy from TV or played something his company worked on he also co-founded Video Games Live which produced Symphony performances of popular video game soundtracks vgl is universally recognized among Gamers as a thing they think they remember hearing about that seems nice through uh no man that’s a visual BG royalties from his company’s work over the years Tommy’s doing pretty well for himself and he’s spent his money on living in a very interesting house it has themed rooms a Spider-Man room full of all the original Comics probably have about $50,000 in your hands right there giant statues of Lara Croft and The Fifth Element lady an ancient Egypt themed dining room the list goes on the first thing I I built in my house when I bought this was a 7ot waterfall but it it kind of sucks because at night sometimes I I have to go to the bathroom and Tommy is proud of his insane mansion that’s why I’ve got so much footage of it he’s given numerous tours of the place over the years and it was even on MTV’s cribs he’s so proud of that he re-uploaded it to his own YouTube channel years later he’s very happy about the fact he was specifically on MTV’s cribs he says it a lot in interviews and that’s what he calls the video he uploaded onto his own channel and there’s no way he would tell an obvious lie like that would he foreshadowing is a literary device in which he also reuploaded an old UK show where the presenter clearly hates his house this is absolutely hideous you’ve got to sort yourself out Tommy you’ve got too much money this is silly it’s not right Tommy no but it is there’s children starving and if you’re the sort of person who’s impressed by Guinness World Records Tommy has a huge stack of them leaning up against a cabinet in the corner of his Awards SL Indiana Jones Nook the big one is person who has worked on the most video games in their lifetime I actually have the Guinness World Record for the person who’s worked on the most video games in their lifetime he’s such AIG B deal he was handpicked by Shigeru mamoto to work on Metroid Prime Metroid Prime with Shiro mamoto I worked with him for uh many years and he was also the first American to work on the Sonic the Hedgehog franchise I was the first American ever hired uh to work on the Sonic franchise can you believe that can you believe that do you really believe that Tommy’s been kind of resting on his Laurels doing Video Games Live for a while now he hasn’t done much new music music for games since the late 2000s one of the last things he did was donate music to Super tofu boy a game made by Peter it’s a really bad Super Meat Boy clone interspersed with quite good music and interesting meat facts listen Peter I’ve eaten a lot of tofu but meat doesn’t scream either if it did people would probably stop eating it Tommy is a vocal Peter supporter doing an interview for them in the Egyptian wing of his house about cruelty to animals and put out a statement on Facebook responding to criticism of his involvement with tofu boy it’s the only press release I’ve ever read that has emoticons in it we can’t really talk about Tommy without talking about what he was doing while the O was being discovered Tommy is most well known nowadays for what has become known as the Amo Modge chest shes what do you mean disaster in 2018 Tommy acquired the rights to intelvision a game company from the 70s and ‘ 80s and announced he was making a brand new console the intell vision Amo Amo aimed to be a truly familyfriendly games console with low age ratings on its games and the bonus selling point of uh not having online play apparently to get people playing in the same room together together again a some people would tell you online play is one of the best features of modern gaming and a nice option for people who can’t easily be physically next to each other and to that Tommy’s reply was no when I was growing up in the 70s 80s and even when I was working in the game Industries in the ’90s you know we didn’t have the internet right with this pitch in hand how did Amo do it didn’t it was delayed supposedly due to the global pandemic but then it was delayed many more times and it still isn’t out 2 years after the intended launch it seems less like unfortunate supply chain issues and more like management underestimated how hard it is to make a new game console from scratch as CEO Tommy made the decision to open two company offices in Irvine California and Salt Lake City Utah two really expensive places to open offices in the middle of the pandemic in his video tours the large expensive spaces are mostly empty and unused with the money guy in the back looking like he’s working overtime trying to keep this operation of flat without a finished product this is where the magic is Tommy wants money this is this is in this box is where it all out as the money started to run out they turned to crowdfunding investment website fig Tommy produced a video in his Spider-Man room with other company leadership in his Egypt room and Tomb Raider themed movie theater room claiming the console just needs a b bit more money to get going and releases just around the corner the rocket ship has been built we are on the Launchpad and we just need the fuel to take off so strap yourself in because it’s going to be one hell of a ride they raised 7 million more dollars and the Amo still didn’t come out so they tried again turning to Second crowdfunding investment website Republic they even used the same pitch video come on guys the rocket ship just needs a couple more million dollarss I think any mod really has it I don’t know specifically which one because I can ED to open me oh how do you disable it you got to find which mod it is drop yourself in they raised over 11 and a half million more dollars so they could continue to not not release a console they tried a third time on a weird Shady investor website that pretends to be a live stream but is clearly pre-recorded the rocket ship is built folks we are on the Launchpad we just need a little more fuel and then they turned to yet another crowdfunding website for more and canel it partway through when it became clear there’s no one left to invest when internal documents leaked revealing the console’s internal Hardware was cheap old and rubbish Tommy threatened people who reported on it with legal action and when another Journal asked what the reporters had done wrong reporting publicly available information he deleted all the tweets the am’s difficult non- launch gleeful tossing of investor money into two large holes there’s not too many people here in the office uh yet and its CEO’s increasingly aggressive behavior towards people trying to report what was happening netted the company and Tommy some criticisms Tommy did the responsible thing and started messaging people to call them names he defended the Amo on internet forums calling detractors morons idiots mentally unstable narcissists and cowards comparing criticism of his business decisions to racism eventually settling on calling his detractors gaming racists the funniest term I’ve ever heard but these elitists they’re racists they’re literally gaming racists he did this while following a bunch of actual racists white supremacists and far-right personalities on Twitter this caused people to check for his other hot takes and discover his opinion on people who kneel for the national anthem apparently racism is bad but protesting it is for douchebags somebody just said I sound like a social justice Warrior uh you couldn’t be further from the truth and I’m the most unpolitically correct person on the planet don’t call me an sjw you have no idea how racist I people are saying I got triggered no I’m just having fun and being passionate the folks in there that are that are that are peeing their pants right now things just got worse from there it hit the point where Tommy the CEO of a familyfriendly games console company in desperate need of investment would only give interviews with an Ever dwindling group of DieHard fans who completely agreed with this Behavior the kind of normal person who wear a serial killer mask while they interview you my wife told me to cancel my amigo and I still did not this is one of the last people Tomy was willing to speak to and then if you want to hear me um uh pone some noobs and um and and punch back at some haters follow me on Twitter Tommy tell and uh you know I don’t want punching back to some of these he has since stepped down as CEO with his replacement announcing the company is entering a quiet period which is a hell of a sub tweet if I’ve ever seen one the Amo still isn’t out and a lot of people want their money back in the middle of all this right before the first big delay before things got super bad back when Tommy had a reputation to burn the oof Discovery was made due to his contract with shiny entertainment Tommy tallarico Studios owns all the sound effects he and his employees made for the game shiny could use them in Messiah but they belong to Tommy and he can use them again or sell them if he wishes and when Tommy found out the sound effect he owned was being used in Roblox oh boy did the butter begin to churn Tommy stepped up to the plate and did a stream on YouTube called talking about the Roblox oof sound and controversy it’s hard going back to this stream because he spends a good Chun of it pitching a soon to be relas released game console that still doesn’t exist we’re actually coming out with a brand new video game machine it’s called the intellivision Amo we actually don’t allow online play it’s weirdly anxiety inducing watching a man in January 2020 right before a global pandemic pitching a console whose Central feature is trapping people in a room together everybody can kind of come together and play in the same room together but when he wasn’t pitching his scam adjacent business venture Tommy was demanding Roblox give him 100 million dollar money okay for legal reasons I’d like to specify that was a joke he didn’t ask for that much probably he didn’t say how much he wanted almost like he was embarrassed to Tommy made it clear he didn’t want Roblox to remove the sound he wanted them to keep using it but to pay him for it and if they didn’t things were going to court they may think that um you know I’m trying to get the sound taken out of the game I’m not they may think that I’m currently suing Roblox I’m not currently but it’s also not fair to me that I don’t get compensated for for this this situation is legally speaking very funny allow me to pretend I understand it for a few minutes a key Point here is at least as far as I can tell so probably wrong Tommy isn’t owed any compensation according to Roblox the O came on a CD of sound effects the original creators purchased when they were making the game in the mid 2000s if this is true they used the sound with the reasonable belief they had the right to do so at the time whoever took the sound out of Messiah and sold it on a CD could be in trouble but the two guys who started Roblox in 2006 didn’t do anything wrong apart from create Roblox okay I’ve spoken to a couple of lawyers after filming this bit should have done beforehand really and they clarified something I think I should add here about them not doing anything wrong they did still technically do copyright infringement if you use a sound effect you bought from someone and it turns out they stole it and lied to you you’re still guilty of copyright infringement however if this actually went to court there is something called the innocent infringer defense if an infringer can demonstrate they had no reason to believe they had committed copyright infringement and it looks like roblo might be able to do that the court can reduce the statutory damages to as low as $200 per infringement there are other types of Damages like actual damages the losses suffered by the owner as a result of the infringement but that’s something that could only be answered in a courtroom as you’re about to see however Roblox directly told Tommy they don’t think they owe him anything so it sounds like they think they have a good defense if things go to court in these tweets a few days before the stream Tommy seems a bit annoyed that no one owes him money although in his version Roblox feel like they don’t owe him anything which is a strange way of describing a large corporation I think what Tommy means is roblox’s lawyers know what the law is but he still would like to have some money all Roblox are required to do in this situation is remove the sound and Tommy could send a cease and desist and Trigger that happening whenever he wanted I could have sent a letter very easy cease and desist stop using the sound it’s mine don’t have permission to use it take it out of your game but Tommy isn’t doing that because he doesn’t want it taken out get if he can get them to keep it in and pay him a license fee to use it or just buy the sound off him outright he could make a lot of money I’d rather them just uh pay me and them own the sound forever so that it stays in the game Tommy cannot stress enough how much he doesn’t want Roblox to remove the sound because that’s how he makes money from this uh I never asked Roblox to remove the sound I don’t want it to be removed I haven’t told them to take the sound out of the game I want to keep the sound in the game so and Roblox probably want to keep the immensely popular sound in their game however they are a business their ultimate goal is to keep as much of their money as possible a majority of roblox’s income comes from underpaying the people who actually make the game’s content how much do you think they’re willing to pay for three seconds of a child saying ow especially when they could replace it for free Roblox could remove the sound tomorrow if they wanted to so when Tommy approached them asking for money Roblox offered him less we approached Roblox we said hey there’s a situation and we’re going to ask for this much Roblox said we think you should get this much so so you know this much is what we think just to put it in plain English the purpose of this stream is for Tommy to complain that Roblox will not offer him enough money to buy a sound effect they don’t need I think they’re they’re nuts and disrespect respectful to me this is an alltime classic Taro moment right here complaining about respect while calling someone nuts and asking them for more money it’s just incredible I’m hoping that we can come together I don’t know maybe somewhere in the middle uh to make everyone happy one question really starts to stand out in this 90minut stream how much money does he want he’s very careful to never say how much he thinks the sound effect is worth how much he asked for or how much they offered him and I can’t I can’t say people are going to say well how much did you ask for look you have to understand that is that it is not professional of me to go around sorry how much money I’m asking and how much they are offering just to be clear unless there’s some kind of non-disclosure agreement which he probably would have said if there was there isn’t anything actually stopping Tommy from saying how much he wants for the sound effect the Amo Saga has proven irre ably that Tommy does not care in the slightest about appearing professional that excuse doesn’t work he’s choosing not to say it and getting increasingly defensive as viewers keep asking and he runs out of explanations to be honest none of your damn business no no how much did you say for them to pay for the oof sound okay well I’ve already I’ve already gone over that that I I can’t talk about that to an outside Observer and the chat whose questions he was dodging it started to feel like Tommy just wanted a embarrassingly LGE large amount of money for a single sound effect and knew that it would make him look really greedy if he said it people are never going to know you know what it is and and there doesn’t need to be uh that knowledge he’s in the fascinatingly awkward position of not being able to say how much he wants even though that’s what the stream is about it would be unprofessional to talk about that um but I think I did describe that it’s um a lot more than what you know they were offering which was barely anything at all I think it’s worth asking how much barely anything is to a millionaire with a dedicated Spider-Man room and an indoor waterfall in his Mansion everyone should have a 7ft waterfall I think installed in your room but the thing that’s kind of bad about it is that at night I always have to go to the bathroom wait a minute didn’t he already make that joke later in the Stream he started taking questions and someone asked him to give the ratio how different the counter offer was Tommy percentage wise how far is Roblox offer compared to what you ask for at least a 100 times less so that you know if they offered me $1 I’m asking for $100 so you know if they offered me $1,000 that means I’m asking for $100,000 right so that’s how far it is off I find it very curious that he will say how much he asked for but only in the form of a riddle even what up Lucas more curiously he uses very small amounts of money as examples he chooses not to say for example if they offered me 50 Grand that means I asked for $5 million or if they offered me 100 Grand okay I can see why he didn’t and I hope they come to their senses and I know they’re they’re probably watching I don’t know maybe they’re not it’s Saturday morning so that was the situation in January 2020 Roblox were offering to buy the sound Tommy wanted 100 times more money than they were offering and if things didn’t go his way he was threatening to take things to court you know I have attorneys uh that I have I have teams of attorneys I usually have about 20 different lawyers we it’s just a difference of opinion on whether or not I help to bring millions of people to their game uh or not and what that is worth that last thing is I think why Tommy thinks he can ask for whatever massive amount of money he won’t say in his mind this one sound effect singlehandedly launched the Roblox franchise but the idea is is that this is a sound that helped to create the franchise right some may say even that the reason Roblox is as popular as it is now may be because of the fact that so many people share this yeah really literally yes o sound so some may say Tommy you don’t need to launder your arguments like that you are the one saying that right now this is something that helped to create the franchise itself it’s made the game Roblox go supic it was it did it the [ __ ] are you talking about the only reason it went supersonic is cuz I remember back when I was playing it in Middle School it’s because it was really accessible to play on low-end PCS that’s why it was fun part of the reason how many millions of people found out about the game Roblox because of a meme that had that used because of the sound right we think we’re asking for something extremely Fair considering what it is done for the franchise these claims are hilarious exaggerated but most of all wrong take the sound effects from Minecraft that are really popular and people use a lot in videos too they have a huge presence online as well but they didn’t make Minecraft popular they’re popular because they’re in a game millions of children have played the Roblox o took off in mid 2017 when Roblox was already a pretty mainstream thing the cause and effect is completely backwards here while it might not be entirely impossible for a single sound effect to make a game very popular I would like to remind everyone that this sound effect was already in a game and that game was such a massive critical and Commercial failure that no one noticed a sound effect had been stolen for 20 [ __ ] years come on bud Roblox didn’t become a multi-billion dollar company because of a sound effect they got there by being evil speaking of evil Roblox eventually worked with Tommy to turn all of this into a whole new way of monetizing their empire of nightmares instead of paying Tommy for the sound they’re making the players pay for it in November 2020 Roblox announced the o sound was going to be removed but they were updating their develop a Marketplace so players could purchase sounds to use in their games and once this update was complete the oof sound could be purchased and used through there I assumed Tommy would get a cut from this simultaneously Tommy announced he had produced a sound effect I I think he would I think they offered 100,000 and he was genuinely trying to get like 10 million cuz he is that delusional that he thinks that what is it like he is the sole mind behind the reason Roblox was goodat we do corrupt the I don’t think so their roblo games including the O I have done a brand new sound design Library just for Roblox creators could buy a range of sound effects packs costing from1 to $250 and use these in the games they make Roblox and Tommy agreed to keep the sound in the game as is for a while so the sound mark Place had time to get up and running and no one had to go OAS in the meantime but this functionality still hasn’t been added a year and a half later eventually in July this year Roblox citing a licensing issue removed the sound and replaced it with this one which is rubbish frankly but it might be bad on purpose to incentivize paying to replace it once they get the marketplace up so clever move I guess you bags of scum Tommy also got to make some official oof merch so that was nice for him I suppose I’ve created an O t-shirt he doesn’t look like he got the massive payday he wanted especially since the audio Marketplace hasn’t manifested yet but at least he got something out of it so there we go wasn’t that an interesting story that’s the end of the video essay don’t look at the runtime don’t uh you don’t have to look I’ll look there’s still an hour and 30 minutes of this video by the way worry about it don’t worry about it if you came here to find the or of a sound effect you can go subscribe on the way out if you’d like but take care go play Roblox or something and uh Tommy I know you’re watching I’ve seen you arguing with people in the comments of videos with a 100 views you can go as well go do whatever it is you do in your fun house I’m just chilling out see you okay I think they’re going this video was being filmed in an undisclosed location to avoid being traced also mom went on holiday and she locked the garage so I can’t get to my set and no I have no idea why the back wall of this room is all so green the last guy who lived here had terrible taste anyway I think he’s gone okay we need to talk about Tommy this is where the video was supposed to finish so I was writing up the script and doing a bit more research and then I rewatched Tommy’s e3221 pitch for the Amo and I realized something he takes credit for creating the O in a very particular way I’m even the guy who did the oof sound for Roblox he made the sound for Roblox I thought I misheard him or maybe he misspoke but no that’s how he says it the thing that you might know me the most from is the guy who created the Beloved oof sound for roblo that’s right the sound wasn’t made for Roblox it was made for another game and reused by mistake that’s what this whole thing was about Tommy he said that one in the commercial for his sound design kits he’s selling to put it back in the game why is he saying it like that well obviously the idea he made it for Roblox this massive important Corporation is slightly more prestigious than the truth isn’t it so he’s slightly altering the story to give himself a bit more credit and that’s fine like whatever who cares but then I thought you know for a with another guy’s name on it he seems pretty happy to say he personally made it for Roblox from an Outsiders perspective it looks a bit like Tommy is taking credit for something someone who worked for him did decades later and yeah sure my script was almost done but I couldn’t let that possibility sit unexplored so I tried to figure out who actually made the sound and what I discovered was interesting and then a bunch more other [ __ ] happened and now the video is this long I’m so sorry yes Joey’s name is on the file but that doesn’t necessarily mean he created it if he did the final exporting of the sounds Tarico Studios made for mess his audio program would put his name on them regardless of who recorded edited or mastered them instead let’s look at how Tommy talks about who made it let’s rewind the clock a little back in 2019 Tommy quote tweeted that one video that was a repost of the thing plasma node put on Reddit he indicates that his company created and owns the sounds used for messiah and that the sound effects was created by my lead sound designer Joey cus notice that he specifically doesn’t say that he made it he says his company created and owns it and then specifically credits Joey implying little to no direct personal involvement I believe this version of Tommy’s story is true however soon after writing this to put it bluntly it looks like Tommy realized how popular the sound was he said in many places including the live stream that he didn’t really know that much about Roblox until he found out one of his sounds was in it so on a timeline it looks like he wrote that tweet and then started looking at the sounds presence online in his next tweet he says he’s surprised to discover the sound has tens of millions of views online and then all of a sudden it’s a sound we created and then and he adds this in parenthesis like he’s trying to sneak it into the story at the last last minute and I myself record it this is a bit of a change isn’t it it’s also just a weird way of talking about something you created like if you found out something you had made you was in a huge game you would go hey I made that you wouldn’t go as you can see my company created and owns that it was made by someone who worked for me decades ago oh wait the sounds really popular I mean we made it and I myself recorded it and to his credit I think Tommy noticed how this sounds too because 30 minutes later he tried again he started a second thread where this time it’s a sound he created Joey edited and he owns note that he specifically used the word created again so he got his story straight in the end at least good for him but that does mean this first tweet is a bit embarrassing isn’t it now you tell me what one thing would make Tommy look more like he was trying to rewrite the history after the fact here deleting the Tweet right from my perspective that would be a very stupid thing to do but I must be missing something because he did delete it it’s gone I am not accusing famous industry veteran Tommy telerico of lying about who made a sound here I don’t know for sure who did what on this sound but Tommy should and if he’s telling the truth why did the truth change when he was surprised by how popular the sound was in a very short span of time Tommy’s version of History went from Joey created it to we created it to I created it and then later an attempt to delete the fact he said Joey created it I know how it sounds it would be weird to assume someone just wants to brag about making this one sound effect this badly but he does brag about it he put it in his Twitter handle it’s part of his pitch for the Amo it seems very important to Tommy that he doesn’t just own the sound that he personally created it to most people younger than me that sound effect could be the most well-known thing on his resume which is a bit depressing really and when he tries to describe the process of creating the sound things get even weirder in the o live stream Tommy’s happy to say he made the sound but then he tries to go into detail about how it was made I thought what first I would do is talk about how the oof sound was created when he talks about the work that went into making the sound he doesn’t say he did anything he says we then what we did is we went through you know all the different lines we did a whole bunch of other stuff to it as well so after we pit shifted it down and then sometimes he accidentally says I and then corrects himself I wanted to let folks know uh how I created the sound how we created the sound myself and my sound designer W Joey Curry start to tweak the sound each individual sound so again in O we might have spent you know a half hour trying to figure out exactly which way we should have pitched it down and what thing we would have taken and this and that this [Laughter] is bro is overdoing it strange way to describe something you did far from being a sound he created and Joey merely edited whenever he has to describe any specifics all of a sudden it was done by committee Tommy isn’t lying about who did what here quite the opposite really he’s specifically avoiding Ling by being as vague as possible about something it would be easy to talk about if he actually made the sound himself so I I I took this little girl’s uh we took the clip right and um and then what we did is we edited it and we we we kept the length of the sound he struggles to come up with anything he actually did like his knowledge helped and um we say uh um I want to say this right I mean it it took a lot of uh my knowledge of audio to create this sound and make it sound uh unique now that people know about me they know about how I created the Roblox sound after seeing a guy specifically avoid saying I and say we dozens of times and then finish the story by saying so that’s how I made the sound it just comes off really disingenuous one quick indic Ator of what he could mean by we is at one point he uses it to describe the act of exporting the sound out of the program you know compressing it and making it all eqing it and doing all these crazy things to it uh before we ended up saving it out so when he says we here he just means Joey it only takes one person to hit save on a file and that’s the one thing we know for sure Joey did like with the money situation it’s hard not to read into why Tommy is talking strangely it starts to sound like Joey did most of the work but then that would mean someone else deserves the credit for creating the sound so all of a sudden this3 second sound effect becomes a team effort that’s Tommy’s version of how the sound was made he says we but sometimes when he says we he just means Joey so what’s Joey’s version Joey’s been pretty quiet about all this and good for him his career is still going I did not bother for this horrible video If you bother him I will kill you okay I guess I’m going to go message him unlike some and I’m sure he has better things to do than litigate who made an ancient sound effect unlike me who apparently has plenty of time for that [ __ ] however korus does have a website where he maintains credits for every game he’s worked on since 1993 and he’s still updating it today next to Messiah Joey puts design of all sound effects after witnessing someone claim Joey did it change their mind delete the the story and then talk in very vague terms about who did what um seeing someone just say I designed all the sound effects it’s like a breath of fresh air this is another reason why I find Tommy’s first version of the story more believable not only is it untainted by his later Discovery how popular the sound was it’s also what the other person who worked on the game said but this really makes it look like Tommy’s stealing credit from someone else who worked for him now it was just a hunch before but now I don’t know and here’s when the fun easy video about the Roblox o I was trying to make ended and the horror of my new life began because while I was on Joey’s page I noticed something else design of all sound effects for Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater this was very confusing to read because Tommy spent the last several decades saying he worked on Pro sker Tony Hawk Pro Skater Tony Hawk Pro Skater Tony Hawk Pro Skater uh I was on the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater uh Team I was on the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater team I’m not saying Tommy didn’t work on it it’s just some places seem to disagree with him places like the credits of Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater according to them someone else did the in-game sound effects I’ll give you three guesses it was it was Joey it was Joey although the company he was at is credited as well it’s like they’re saying sound effects done by this guy from this company but Tommy’s acting like he personally did it again I’m starting to feel a bit bad for Joey just to kind of add to the mystery he talks about how small the development team was at the time to kind of add to the exclusivity of it I guess yo being a part of the original uh Tony Hawk Pro Skater team you know there’s only about maybe 10 or 12 of us this means very few people exist who could possibly contradict him how convenient it does make it even weirder though for such a small team to leave his name out of the credits I guess Tommy could say his name is in there but only because his company is named Tommy Tarico Studios so who is responsible for the Sounds in Pros skater the guy credited for it or his boss who says he did it now in an older interview slh house tour Tommy got a bit more specific he said he’d buy skateboards oh sorry I mean we’d buy skateboards we buy skateboards and then Tommy would help this mysterious other person record The Sounds he says one of the pain sound effects ironically also a kind of oof is his actual voice the actual sound in Tony Hawk that you hear when the guy falls off the skateboard and cracks his head open that’s me falling off cracking my head so Tommy might have helped with some of the sounds or at least at some point Joey recorded him falling off a skateboard strangely though while he says he was on the pro skater team nowadays at the time things were very different you see as I mentioned earlier Tommy was on a TV show about games while Pros skater was being made the thing about journalism is it’s usually frowned upon to cover or review a product you helped create without disclosing you worked on it and to his credit Tommy’s very good at this when he and co-host Victor cover games he was involved with they make sure to say it take Advent Rising a game he composed a ton of music for Advent Rising I’m not going to I’m not going to comment on any of the music in the game because I am completely biased this is and I mean this unironically ethical gaming journalism also you might have noticed but Tommy kind of likes to brag about games he’s worked on one time they reviewed an aladdin game and they brought up that Tommy worked on a different Aladdin Games music eight years before it was a great throwback to the 16bit platform days and I know you worked on the original Aladdin game so you must have felt like you were coming home yeah Tommy not only understands disclosure he loves doing it if Tommy worked on a game or a game similar to the one being reviewed you hear about it on this show so what does it mean when Tommy doesn’t say he worked on a game while Tony Hawk’s Pro Skater was being made it was featured on the show Tommy interviewed one of the developers later when it came out Tommy and Victor reviewed it and both gave it a 9.5 out of 10 if Tommy worked on this game’s sound effects he would have said so wouldn’t he well he doesn’t at no point whatsoever in the coverage does Tommy disclose he worked on the game Tommy behaves like a TV guy interviewing a game developer which would be a bit weird if he was also on that development team right I can only think of a few reasons why Tommy wouldn’t mention he worked on the game when he goes out of his way to do so normally one is he randomly decided not to take credit for something which seems out of character and pretty dishonest considering how Hardy promoted the game and he seems to know better than that the alternative is while he had helped Joey out a little Tommy at the time didn’t consider whatever input he gave big enough to justify telling people he was involved which is fascinating to me there is potentially a past version of Tommy who if he honestly thought about it would choose not to say he worked on PR skater which is cool of him however then PR skater went on to be a really famous franchise and it became very cool to say you worked on it I was on the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater team and over the years Tommy’s story has grown a bit from helping with some of the sounds to uh doing all of them I was on the original Tony Hawk Pro Skater team so I did all those uh sounds audio director on that uh wait now he’s saying he was the audio director he’s he’s not even in the credit let’s quickly look at who did what on games T Rico Studios worked on on the vast majority Tommy is often credited for music but he doesn’t do sound effects much sound effects or sound design as it was later called is usually done by Joey a game Taro Studios worked on almost always has music by Tommy sound effects by Joey in the credits basically when Tommy and Joey work on games together it’s pretty clear who did what in fact in the early 2000s Taro Studios put out a sound effects Library you could buy and use in your own projects with over 19 a half thousand sound effects in it Tommy’s the executive producer so I’m sure he was involved in some capacity but three other recorders and editors are credited along with the sound designer I wonder who it could be it’s Joey it’s always Joey Joey credits himself as the lead sound designer at telerico Studios for 13 years the thing he did was sound effects even on Electric Playground Tommy’s show Joey is credited for additional sound effects so maybe Tommy didn’t say he did the sound effects on fros skater because he knew Joey would see it given Tommy’s tendency to take games his sound effects guy is credited for and say he did all the sounds what does that sort of thing mean for his later claims about Messiah and making the O well wouldn’t it be funny if Tommy also reviewed Messiah on TV and when he did he again did not mention he worked on the game wouldn’t that be very very funny yeah it is funny that is what happened even funnier on that same episode they also reviewed the Dreamcast version of Pros skater giving Tommy yet another opportunity to say he worked on it which he didn’t there’s starting to be a precedent for Joey doing things being the one credited for it Tommy reviewing it and not mentioning he worked on it and then years later deciding he did coming back to how he talks on the stream we could mean we both worked on this sound but to be cynical it can also mean Joey did it while working for me Messiah is one of the two or so games I could find that Tarico Studios made where they are both credited for the sound effects at once so potentially Tommy might have been more involved with the sound effects on this than normal so our candidates are a guy who mostly did music and not sound effects reviewed the game on television and chose not to say he worked on it and when he later decided he did and he made this sound carefully avoided taking credit for anything specific um or the guy credited for sound effects on almost every other game who says he did it Who Tommy said did it before he changed his mind the first time and whose name is on the file in conclusion who knows could have been either of them maybe it was both art is really a collaborative process okay that was written as a joke about how heavily the deck is stacked here but let’s be serious I haven’t found any definitive proof here I think it’s interesting just how much Joey is credited for sound effects everywhere else and I think it’s weird that Tommy didn’t really have any specifics to say about what he did on the sound and I think if he did work on the game that closely he should have said so when he reviewed the game on television but none of that is specific proof of who recorded or M a specific sound effect however given all of this additional context and information I can say at least for myself that I have some trouble believing Tomy when he says he made the sound but when you decide something a well-known industry figure like him has said is suspect you start to ask well what else has he said this guy’s been around for decades and he’s said a lot of things I started investigating some of his other claims I did it mostly to prove to myself I was just being silly so I could believe him when he said that that he made the sound I wanted to be able to put this to bed and move on with my life I just couldn’t accept that the first American to ever work on Sonic would lie like that hey wait a second yes Tommy has repeatedly said he’s the first American to ever work on Sonic in fact I was the very first American to ever be hired by the Sonic Team back in the day are you serious very first yeah very first American to be to be hired one of the first Americans to ever uh be hired uh by Sega of Japan for the Sonic Team thought I was the first American to ever be hired to work on the Sonic the hedg heart series but if you don’t take Tommy’s word for it and do your own research by which I mean basically Google Sonic for two seconds you start to see red flags Sonic was being developed in America as early as 1992 when Sonic 2 was being made in California Americans are all over Sonic’s game development since almost the beginning which game did Tommy work on anyway Sonic uh some of the uh or one of the Sonic games Black Knight that might have been in the 2000s so Tommy was about 20 years late to the party of Americans working on Sonic okay let’s be charitable maybe he means first American to do music for the series but if he thinks that Tommy’s been crushing too many 40s that was terrible I promis to live and learn from the oh [ __ ] but this first American stuff gets even deeper there are layers to this [ __ ] one particular American Musician Michael Jackson was rumored for decades to have worked on Sonic 3 this was seemingly confirmed by Yugi Naka earlier this year actually this would make Jackson the first American to do a Sonic soundtrack maybe there are some Americans who worked on one earlier I’m not sure I’m not deep into Sonic law I’m no heritance spimi now you could say well sure maybe that means Tommy is wrong about being the first American but there’s no way he could have known that we only found out for sure recently and yeah to be fair that would be true were it not for the fact Tommy has also been bragging about knowing back in the ’90s that Jackson worked on Sonic so I was really close with the uh the Sega folks back in the early 9s I don’t know if it was ever confirmed or not but but I can tell you that he did do the music for Sonic 3 this was at a con in 2014 before he started saying he was the first American so either he knew he was lying when he started saying that or he made this [ __ ] up too which one is the lie at this point why not both I don’t trust this story about knowing about Jackson either frankly I think he just made up a story to seem involved with another important piece of history that seems to be his Mo at this point this is just one example of what we could charitably call exaggeration but realistically we call lies the more I tried to check things Tommy said to prove to myself that any of it was true the more it all came apart okay so what about the Metroid Prime thing he said in a bunch of places including the O stream that he worked on Metroid Prime uh Metroid Prime with Shiro mamoto uh worked on that for uh for a couple of years and I worked with him on Metro uh Prime the first one and we worked together for about gosh I want to say four or five years Metroid Prime I worked with that with Shiro mamoto for five years I worked with Shiro mioto the creator of Mario you got to get some sexy people you got a bunch of Chan you got a bunch of four chanch interviewing you you got to get some sexy people Zelda worked with him for five years on Metroid Prime he doesn’t just say he worked I thought that was a lesbian oh my [ __ ] god oops actually he says Shu mioto was a personal huge fan of his work and always wanted to work on a game with him we always talked about working together like oh man I really love all your Mario stuff and he’d say oh man I love all your your stuff that you do like oh we got to work together sometime you know I don’t know if that part of the story is true but Taro Studios was contracted to work on Prime not music by the way Prime already had a composer they just did sound effects that might turn out to be important later but early in development retro canceled all their other projects to focus on Prime and suddenly didn’t need outside help to get the audio done and his contract wasn’t renewed Tom Tommy will confirm this part of the story himself my contract was coming to an end was around the same time that that Retro’s projects were all getting cancelled except for Metroid and they had an internal audio department so he did work on it briefly but again with the exaggeration for him to be dropped so easily implies mamoto wasn’t as invested in working with Tommy as he says Tommy doesn’t just say he worked on Prime sound effects for a bit and mamoto was a huge fan though his story gets way more exotic he tells people mamoto didn’t give him any direction or visuals or animations to make sound effects to he told him to just make what he thought was cool and the development team designed the weapons and animations around his sounds give us a bunch of Epic weapon sounds and then what we’re going to do is I’m going to give those to my artists and then they are going to be inspired by the sounds that you make and we’re going to inspire the art and the thing wow so cool this is an unprecedented amount of control for an external audio contractor to have over a project plus it just doesn’t mix very well with the fact he left really early in development did mamoto change his mind why didn’t he make retro keep him on board if he had such an important job it also doesn’t mix with other stories from retro studios’s actual audio department he did an interview for shin sparkers where he told this story about mamoto letting him design the weapon sounds first however Shin spark has then went on to interview Clark Wen Prime’s audio lead who came onard board after the other games were cancelled and Tommy was gone when is well respected in the game audio industry he’s worked on a bunch of stuff including Tony Hawk games interestingly enough according to him they did sound effects the normal way basing their work off the art and animations there’s something amazing about reading an interview with Tommy where mamoto blessed the project with a radical new technique where the sound designer had massive creative control over the game and then going to the interview with when where they say we interviewed Tommy and he said you did this and he goes that sounds cool but no when says one or two weapon sound effects were done when he got there and he left them mostly untouched so a few of the Sounds in the game are done by Tarico Studios and they might have been done the way Tommy said but his overall involvement with the game was very small how small he left so early in development they forgot he had worked on it by the time the game was done and forgot to put his name in the credits a bunch of other audio contractors made it in though they must have kept Contracting people after he left and not got him back weird I wonder why after seeing Tommy repeatedly take credit for the work of people under him it’s kind of cathartic seeing a bunch of other people get credited and for him to be forgotten however he’s not the only one someone’s missing from Tommy’s version of the story again can you guess in a now deleted page on his website accessible via the internet archive Tommy wrote about leaving early in development although he still claims he did a lot of the main sound design somehow funnily enough he doesn’t say I too much he says we I wonder who the other it’s Joey it’s always Joey he shared a recent email from Retro’s new audio manager to prove he worked on it and he oh LOE are you online are you online are you in game what’s your IGN Again by the way I got to give you your tally back I forgot my bad Rico Studios did but he says it like this my hat is off to you Tommy and Joey it’s always Joey what makes the story even funnier is how you know Tommy was on a TV show that reviewed games when Prime came which makes he was barely involved but one fascinating thing that hasn’t come up yet is Tommy just has terrible taste JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure the characters are incredibly stupid he complained about Prime’s backtracking and scanning system stuff people love about the game and absolutely refused to let Victor get a word in edge wise I scan every little thing story there I was looking at my accessory bag and I’m like wait my fault there you go I sent you one fck you get the too [ __ ] that’s a duped get them everybody wdr wdr wdr wdr and that’s a problem enoy all that the worst problem thank you again Loi by the way no shot you gave me the [ __ ] I gave you yesterday I [ __ ] hate you I should have I should have sold it this game yes is the he gave it a 7.5 which according to Metacritic would be the absolute lowest score any remotely professional critic gave it at the time even less than the eight the guy who wrote the text reviews for EP gave it Tommy was not the biggest fan of this game but now it’s universally recognized as a masterpiece he can’t wait to tell you he was a huge part of it it’s kind of fascinating how these two supposed industry professionals each talk about their work at all on his presumably large part of the finished game to go on a resume meanwhile Tommy Talks like he worked hand in hand with Shigeru mamoto for 5 years on Metroid Prime oh come on H1 be reasonable he doesn’t say it like that no he says it like that I worked hand inand with Shiro mamoto for five years on Metroid Prime but he said on his own website he left early he left so early they forgot to put him in the credits he knows he’s not telling the truth when he says this okay look maybe I’m just a gaming racist but is it okay at this point to call this an obvious lie it must wait looking for K was your account no shot yeah everybody report him get them out get them out reported report report report be very diff work hand in hand with someone on a game they famously did not work on very much Retro Studios is based in Texas mamoto was a distant producer who occasionally gave notes several former retro employes have even suggested he gave Metroid to a new company in America that hadn’t made any games yet because he didn’t like Metroid that much some insinuating he didn’t really get metroids type of gameplay mamoto pned off IPS like this he visited rare one day and made them turn the game they were making into a Star Fox game because he had no idea what else to do with Star Fox and we all know how that turned out it’s actually pretty good people are just mean Prime is great but it happened because mamoto outsourced an IP he didn’t like to a bunch of Americans so he didn’t have to think about it which gives very different implications to mamoto asking Tommy to do the sound effects so now almost every game he’s bragged about working on has turned out to be a gross exaggeration the only other games he talks about are earthworm jym and Aladdin I guess there’s one more a Guitar Hero Guitar Hero guitar hero uh franchise uh did some work on some of the the first three Guitar Hero games you know like some of the games I’ve worked on Disney’s Aladdin earthworm gym Guitar Hero any of his songs on the soundtrack uh no did he do sound effects it doesn’t look like it is he credited on any of the games on one of them yeah according to a joystick interview rest in peace comrade he helped them get an Aerosmith song on too because his cousin is Steven Tyler of Aerosmith he’s in the credits of Guitar Hero 2 in the industry thanks section his involvement seems I don’t know kind of small it’s mostly people who championed the first Guitar Hero when it came out you know game journalists and celebrities and will Weeden interestingly alongside Brad Shoemaker Ryan Davis and of course Jeff gersman also in these credits is Patrick kpic who 15 years later would go on to make hey hey hey quit snitching hey [ __ ] up quit snitching quit snitching nah [ __ ] up boy quit snitching he found it he was he was walking down the street and he found the account okay shut up make him delete a legal Threat by asking him a basic question this is the total extent I can find of Tommy’s involvement with the Guitar Hero games but I must be missing something the way he brings it up you’d think he was massively involved I worked on the Guitar Hero Games the the first three um the third one was Guitar Hero Aeros Smith um now you know why I want to assume Tommy was joking there but at this point I don’t know the more you look at Tommy’s weird exaggerations overstatements of credit his use of we to mean Joey the more you see it it starts to take over your mind you start to ask yourself if even the stuff he couldn’t possibly be lying about is is a lie like okay are those World Records real I assumed even if everything else was fake they would be real at least there’s no way anyone could get away with such an obvious lie it would be too easy to check but it turns out if something is easy to check no one actually does let’s start with the big one the person who has worked on the most video games in their lifetime that’s what he calls it at least that’s I hold the Guinness World Record for the person who’s worked on the most video games in their life my my mother’s very proud the person who’s worked on the most video games in their lifetime my mother’s very proud for the person who’s worked on the most video games in a lifetime so that that was pretty cool my mother’s very proud but the person who’s worked on the most video games in their lifetime which is kind of kind of crazy kind of a cool honor my mother’s very proud the person who worked on the most video Gam his mother’s proud y’all yeah my mother is very proud there’s several problems with this one let’s start with how the number of games he’s worked on keeps expanding and not in the sexy way by the time of his first Guinness world record in 2008 he’d worked on the production of dude cuz his mother’s very proud 272 games around this time he stopped doing music for games and started focusing on video games live games Liv takes up such a huge part of your your time and your career so have you ever considered going back to like fulltime video game comple there was this period in the early 2010s where the last game he’d officially worked on outside of super tofu boy was Sonic and the Black Knight the last game I composed wasn’t that like a terrible [ __ ] Sonic game though I’m a I’m a I’m going to say something controversial Sonic most Sonic Gam [ __ ] suck okay they suck they’re all bad they never get them right was actually a Sonic game and that was a couple years ago but yeah but somehow two years later he had a record with over 300 games on it in October 2017 he said he’ worked on over 300 games in fact I have a Guinness World Record for the person who’s worked on the most video games in their lifetime over 300 games but by the time of the O stream in January 2020 just over 2 years later it was over 350 and uh I’ve worked on over 350 uh video games he had a busy couple of years there I read today uh 300 video games you’ve had your hands in that that can’t be a real number yeah that’s actually 350 yeah it’s up to 350 now that I know a lot who is it he’s a good liar lot of people in the industry I’ve worked on 20 of 350 games in my career okay Tommy seems a little confused himself how many he’s done so you know just for his sake we should probably double check how many so uh is there a list macroing don’t turn it off now don’t turn it off now bro turn it off question marking oh he hit me with the Russian Wikipedia page lists far less games than he says he’s worked on fewer God damn it I used Wikipedia for that visual earlier showing the games he’ worked on in the early 2010s let’s show everything else he did afterwards nothing he can to be faster that’s literally it it’s so a lot of people do that so they can like run to be at the next thing faster than other people for some I don’t know they’re dumb that’s it’s also because he’s uh macroing so like that was clear as day ma in ret and he typed in Russian so you know he’s cheating City Rampage and that’s it according to Wikipedia his IMDb splits his credits into a dozen different categories but not Games television and movies because it’s a horrible website and the composer and sound Department credits have a bunch of games repeated in both wow he’s credited for some of them three times even messiah’s in there twice earthw JY 2 is in there four times but even adding literally all the video game credits together including all the duplicates you get less than half the number he said he’d done 15 years ago what the [ __ ] is happening his mobi games page lists about 100 uh it’s 6:13 a.m. right now and my eyes went a bit blurry while I was counting it could be like 98 either way it’s a lot less than 350 and I’m not recounting this [ __ ] and that’s counting a bunch he’s just in the thanks for like Guitar Hero 2 it doesn’t list Pro Skater because he’s not in the credits for that even though Moby games appear to have copy pasted the official biography from his website which claims he did they somehow managed to get PR sker to link to the correct game page but not to get the spelling right okay none of these websites can be trusted thankfully Tommy has taken it upon himself to make his own list of games on his website this list is larger and I mean a lot larger than the others and since Tommy wrote it there’s some dubious names on here PR skater and Guitar Hero are on there and so is Metroid Prime obviously he personally held hands with the development team while they made it but so is Prime 2 a game I’ve never seen any mention of him touching anyone’s Hands-On did they reuse some sounds him/ Joey made so that counts as working on both and I guess I can now add Roblox to that list of games if Tommy thinks he can put Roblox on the list of games he has worked on imagine what justifications other games are on this list for one of Tommy’s actually interesting contributions game history is early PlayStation 1 models came with a demo disc to show what the console could do and some of his music is in the menus and titles the first sounds ever made by some early PlayStations would be music made by Tommy this is kind of neat and cool and it’s also weird seeing PlayStation demo disc in a list of games composed for in general this list has quite a bit of what we call padding Tarico Studios did additional music for the first Blood rain so that’s one game worked on right well it’s on Tommy’s list five times as each console version along with PC and Mac I’m not sure why you’d want to give blood rain such a strong presence on your resume but each to their own he also did the music for earthworm gym 1 and two an earthworm gym game is on his list 18 times super tofu boy a free flash game Peter made he donated music to is on here twice you can run flash games on the Mac too wow that’s an extra game worked on [ __ ] you Tommy but even counting all of this all the games he wasn’t isn’t credited for but still puts on his list the multiple times the same game is counted across many different consoles or computers or demo discs as specific games worked on it’s still a lot less than the number he says if you decide to be a bit mean and remove all the repeat games you get around 175 almost 100 less than his first Guinness World Record said 15 years ago so either he stopped updating his website and IMDb Moby games Wikipedia and everywhere else also sto tracking the games he worked on or Bob forgive me the first American to ever work on Sonic is exaggerating again in an interview in 2010 he said he worked on 280 video games which is a Guinness World Record actually inside the Guinness book as the person who worked on the most video games in their life this sentence almost made me cut my [ __ ] head off Tommy isn’t actually oh leave me the [ __ ] alone wait you invited me to this Lobby I’m dumb yeah Book of World Records he’s talking about here trust me I checked he is however inside that Year’s Guinness Book of World Records Gamers Edition the got him is full of more game Centric records notice that it’s also much smaller print quality is much worse and generally it’s a lot less prestigious than being in the actual book my producer cat left a comment on that line in the script saying it’s a bit like like saying you gave a TED talk when really you just gave a Ted X talk not realizing how [ __ ] funny she was being because Tommy has done a Ted X talk my mother’s very proud when his biography on his website calls it a TED Talk he is exactly that guy wait what’s the difference between Ted Talk and Ted X what’s the difference obviously assume a Ted Talk’s more than a Ted X but like what’s thef difference she is so cool I love Tommy is at least featured in The Gamers Edition it’s a two-page interview about his career and Video Games Live at the beginning of the interview the author claims Tommy has worked on more game soundtracks than anyone else they don’t say how they verified this or provide the list of games it seems a bit like Tommy just told the interviewer this in the interview and they repeated it as a factoid assuming it was true because why would someone tell such an obvious lie whatever evidence he has backing up his claim is becoming difficult to find luckily this wasn’t too expensive on eBay uh supplies are quite low but the demand it’s just me basically I mentioned how surprisingly cheap these were to Mandalore gaming and he started bulk buying them to leave in airbnbs he stays in like a sort of gayer Dean Bible so if they seem more expensive now it’s because he’s artificially inflated the price speaking of artificial inflation even if the amount of games Tommy says he’s worked on was completely true there are still people who’ve worked on way more games the record is just wrong even even Guinness at some point recognized this they actually changed the wording of the record at some point after he first got it it’s not person who has worked on the most games in a lifetime anymore it’s most prolific composer of game soundtracks the Guinness website says that now and the updated versions of Tommy’s plaque say that too so Guinness have done their best to correct this mistake Tommy however has continued using the original name anyway for over a decade in fact I own the Guinness World Record for the person all let me look it up difference between head head X head conferences oh wait oh okay so TED Talks are by officially the Ted organization tedex are like local like things worked on most video games in their lifetime my mother’s very proud another one of beat [ __ ] out of those Sweet Little Lies we’ve become accustomed to Tommy using although I can kind of understand this one because the new name is even more obviously a lie I know for a fact Tommy has not made 280 video game soundtracks we need to acknowledge just how Bonkers this clip is he’s saying most video games in a lifetime while showing footage of the new record with a different name bonus points for the fact that record says more than 300 games but then it cuts to a list he wrote with less bobbed did you do this I give me money [ __ ] 300 games on it and just in case it needs to be said no Guinness are not a real record organization they’re ay book it’s already a pretty common joke that most of their gone up I’m getting thanks a lot you got me banned we’re gone team okay it just silly stuff someone made up so they can have a record like most baseball bats broken in one minute that’s a silly one I just made up now just kidding it’s real I don’t really mind if Guinness track a bunch of silly records it’s just a bit of fun really but they are an utterly for-profit organization not just in terms of sales of books but also sales of Records Guinness has an entire subsection on their website dedicated to Business Marketing Solutions promising they can help with PR and marketing campaigns complete with a case studies section showing over a dozen pages of companies they got attention for by helping them come up with a new record to break like Canon with its longest digitally printed photograph if you have the money you can pay them to help you break a record I have my suspicions a lot of the silly record holders are independently wealthy people you know some people just want a record to call their own to give their empty lives a sense of meaning Guinness aren’t purposefully keeping track of who’s broken that was irresponsible no you gave me red coins I was almost beamed but I told God don’t do it yet and he stopped uh Simon the most bats or wasted the most money on a Pokemon card having a Guinness adjudicator on site to verify and give out the award on the day is super expensive at minimum $10,000 plus transport what what the [ __ ] no shot I’m paying 10K just to have some dork and a in a shitty suit say yeah you got it byebye hotel costs this stuff gets expensive fast they aren’t a neutral party tracking human achievements they are a paid service and many of their record holders are basically just customers you’ll notice that when it became clear someone else should have the record for most games made in a who’ you scam this time matter of fact just check your auction house later time they didn’t give someone else the record they changed it to one Tommy was more likely to have I’m curious how much they charge for this service Guinness’s record search function claims Tommy is involved with two more these are for Video Games Live what great marketing these must have been they are most video game concerts performed and largest audience for a live video game music concert let’s quickly appreciate how sneaky these records are vgl haven’t come close to performing the most concerts but most video game conerts now that’s a record and it’s highly specific so no one can challenge it in fact you literally can’t challenge it the Guinness website says these records are not accepting active submissions this is a do you think I would get in trouble if I took money because actually no CU you don’t get if you low ball yeah that’s different never mind I’ll take scammed coins special record only Tommy can get and wouldn’t believe it at his 357th concert one of those prohibitively expensive adjudicators turned up to hand him the latest version of these two records but let’s look closer at largest audience for a live video game music concert for a second uh the biggest Symphony show ever seen live over 752 th000 people watching us live in Beijing China this would be pretty impressive would you be shocked if I told you Tommy’s story is inaccurate not all of those 752 th000 people were watching in person in Beijing some of them were watching it digitally on a live stream on a Chinese video website biggest Symphony show ever seen live 752 th000 people watching me live on stage that was in Beijing it’s a bit deceptive to say they were watching you live on stage when they were nowhere near the stage how many people were actually there uh the famous um uh bird’s nest National Olympic Stadium we played there 13 ,000 people inside 600,000 people outside I love that he says outside when he means we’re watching a live stream like is he trying to imply hundreds of thousands of people stood outside just to hear his show but 100K people attending a concert is still a lot still a lie though you know I couldn’t help but overhear what venue he said this took place at bird’s nest National Olympic Stadium the bird’s nest is a beautiful stadium and it must be amazing to play in front of 130,000 people there in case you’re not familiar with the bird’s nest allow me to read you the beginning of its Wikipedia page you’re an hour deep into a video about the Roblox o you don’t have anything better to do the National Stadium also known as the bird’s nest is an 80,000 capacity stadium in Beijing I think I might have noticed a very small discrepancy during the 2008 Olympics it hit its record attendance of 89,000 people Tommy is claiming he got better attendance than the Olympics and can fold space but because it’s Tommy there are layers of Miss truth Happening Here you see Tommy has the name of the venue wrong Guinness has an article about this record and they say it was set at the Beijing exhibition Theater which is a different place at first I thought this was just a one-off mistake vgl have played both venues but the thing is though he always says it’s the bird’s nest uh there was the bird’s nest in China Beijing National Olympic Stadium 750,000 people now maybe he just has the names really mixed oh does he only get Republicans to two interviews like what the [ __ ] is this up in his head they are both in Beijing after all although it is a bit weird to forget where you set your Guinness World Record but whatever but is there maybe a reason he says the name of this theator while claiming he played to hundreds of thousands of people well there’s one it would be even more impossible to play to 130,000 people at a theater with only 2700 seats the Guinness article also happens to mention the actual number of people physically at the concert 286 people so even when Guinness has the numbers he still makes [ __ ] up Tommy anyone can check this yeah but see they haven’t see that’s why Tommy’s goated and nobody’s checked him on it so he’s been able to live good by the way after this video came out he quit posting for like two years by the way like this was a terrible thing that happened what are you doing I don’t trust that many people were watching the live stream either there’s no easily obtainable record of the live viewership from the Chinese streaming platform disappeared on so we and apparently also Guinness just have to take Tommy’s word for it that almost exactly 750,000 people watched this live and considering we just caught him lying about this exact thing I have my doubts even though he has a record with a specific number WR me would say I guarant uh I don’t know if I’d believe it but I I would say he probably did have that much especially if he did it in China WR on it the number keeps changing in an interview in the 2017 Guinness Book of World Records The Gamers edition of course he directly claims over a million people saw that show live I cannot stress this enough he is literally lying to Guinness about a record Guinness just gave him why does he keep paying them to [ __ ] um to do interviews like bro fell off can’t [ __ ] believe it I can’t [ __ ] believe it that’s all three of the records Guinness appears to have on file for Tommy Tarico Tommy seems to know better though his list of awards on his website says he has four the fourth one being most video game concerts in a year record I cannot find anywhere other than his list of awards and other interviews with Tommy so I don’t know maybe he has four well his biography says he currently holds five so I don’t know the numbers just keep going up can he at least get the record straight on the number of Records okay to be fair he has recently updated it lately he started saying he has seven I have seven seven gous Worlds Records for for different things so what are all the others you know for a guy who let’s be frank [ __ ] loves bragging about all the [ __ ] he’s done I’ve worked with everybody I was the first American Tommy is uncharacteristically modest about saying what these other four records are in a Reddit AMA a few years back he said he has seven but just to avoid wasting people’s time he only listed three of them would you like to guess which three when someone directly asks him to list the records he sheepishly adds most game concerts in a year but that’s it the others are like ghosts Tomy how me G World Records do you have um that’s so I have seven um one of the ones I have is the most Symphony shows in a single year but I would say the there’s three big ones the three big ones are most shows biggest live show ever seen and then the the um the most video games so I have a total of seven but there’s three big ones he doesn’t even have a riddle prepared for this one he just refuses to tell people he’s so shy all of a sudden luckily for us in Tommy’s investor videos for the Amo we can see at least five of them so let’s just take a look and find out for ourselves in the center we have most prolific composer of soundtracks okay can’t verify he’s done that many games but we at least know that one the two either side say most video game concerts and largest audience those are the three we know he has now for the mystery ones to the right we have the record for the most video game concerts per this is the same record this is the previous version this one from 2014 with 293 shows what about the one on the left the longest video game con Video Games Live which has performed 260 these are the same three records it’s starting to look like there’s a good reason the other four records don’t get mentioned much in one house tour he gave in 2017 he has them all laid out on the floor where they appear to have sat for 5 years now look at that Dust Bunny and Tommy calls them seven different Guinness World Records there’s seven of them uh seven different Guinness World Records so I’m not sure how these can be seven different records if when you pause the video and look several of them are the same and I think when people get too up close and personal with his records they start to notice this too in this clip he talks about two of them ones we know and then this weird cut happens that was the first one that the first one and then uh and then the for the shows and then there where’s he jealous I didn’t edit that in I swear I’d love to know what happened between these two clips here’s yet another fun fact Guinness charges separately for the award certificate and the plaque it comes in they have a unique design they don’t change very often and they’re pretty expensive when Tommy got these two in 2014 it looks like he just bought two picture frames from a store I guess when you have so many versions of the same record already you get sick of paying full price for them I’m not just bringing this up to make fun of him although I am but it’s actually really useful data you know how I mentioned Guinness renamed his most games record in this one tour with the super awkward edit another funny thing happens Tommy reads out that record right this is uh the Guinness World Record for the person who’s worked on the most video games in a lifetime wow but because he got a shitty frame for this one we can check and see the record he’s reading from says something else for the person who’s worked on the most video games in a lifetime wow Tommy refuses to acknowledge the new title and pretends it has the old wrong name because it’s a bit more prestigious he’s lying about the I’m inviting you here because this is the lowest Lobby I’ve seen by the way so like for the next event to end obviously text of a record he is literally holding in his hands and pretending to read from this guy’s a [ __ ] genius how has he never been caught I feel like I’m going crazy you know how the concert records say video game concerts if you’ve been paying attention you’ll notice Tommy always says it’s for symphony concerts or symphonic concerts biggest Symphony show ever seen live the most Symphony shows ever done uh the biggest Symphony show ever seen live biggest Symphony show ever seen live Tommy knows his video game concert record is extremely stupid and out of embarrassment he calls it something else oh maybe it’s not deliberate maybe he just got the name arm arm wrong no I can prove it here’s a time he does that while pointing at it and pretending to read it here’s one L audience largest audience ever to see a syonic concert live 72,000 people we can see what the record says in the previous shot Tommy okay let’s wrap this up how many records does Tommy have through a list of games that cannot be found but keeps exploding and by making up new definitions of concert it looks like Tommy has about three but he owns seven plaques of them so he tells people he has seven different Guinness World Records and maybe he does have a most video game concerts in a year one and it’s just never visible in shots of his records Guinness only has three records in their search though well had um I was going to move on from Guinness at this point but then there was a new development in the search for Tommy’s list of games after looking everywhere for the list of 350 plus games Tommy’s supposedly worked on or I guess composed for now we realized there was one place that would definitely have one Guinness themselves so we emailed them and by we I mean cat did it for me she did all the work that’s what people mean when they say we they mean someone else did it for me we worked on the oof sound yeah right I know this trick Tommy We cat asked them what evidence was provided for the record and how it was verified Guinness were really polite and got back to us very quickly here was their response the record title in question is one of our consultant records which are not open to standard applications they are confirmed by specialist Consultants that we approve our expert external Consultants that we use for records of this kind often have professional links to the field in question I.E video games these titles are research based rather than evidence-based thanks first off this email provides me the incredible quote that the record is not evidence-based which is just fantastic thank you very much for that this is one of the situations where if you did the research you would have the evidence this doesn’t require specialist consultation it’s a list of games on top of that this implies Guinness have never seen a list either the record was verified by a consultant so someone somewhere says Tommy has worked on this many games and Guinness believes them but then something even stranger happened previously when you typed Tommy’s name into Guinness’s record search that record came up one of the other vgl records came up because he’s mentioned by name on that record the other one doesn’t so those are the ones that came up this is a screenshot I took in early September anyway after emailed them asking how they verified it I realized I needed to take another screenshot because I’d scribbled all over one of them so I went back and the record didn’t come up just the other one did right after we emailed them asking them where their evidence was and they said they didn’t have it the record disappeared did we did we just get one of Tommy’s records deleted W oh no I didn’t mean to do this I just wanted to see a list of games Tommy if you’re watching this it wasn’t me it was cat please don’t so now the breaks have come off and this video is spiraling out of my control I’ve lost all hope of figuring out what Tommy is doing or why doing the early research before this all happened it got kind of nostalgic going back and rewatching ancient episodes of Electric Playground and reviews on the Run and watching Tommy do his wacky boobery and yell at Victor when he says normal things like Metroid Prime is fun I was trying to remember if I ever found Tommy funny or if I was always just laughing at him you know you know what I got to say to you I don’t care what you think even doing that level of research I fell back into an ancient drama I saw unfold as a kid and completely forgot about Tommy’s awful opinions used to be a running joke on forums discussing his Show’s reviews people would bring up he gave Smash Brothers Melee one of the most beloved games in human history a 2.5 out of 10 what oh wait no you’re still there [ __ ] you wait what happened oh shut up you are special needs and I ought to ban you for saying that I just got what you said shut the [ __ ] up mob hug running I’m inv Lear about this because I was a pretty big Mega 64 fan as a teenager and they shot some videos at his house and even did an episode of their podcast there I remember watching this on my iPod Nano on the bus now we’re in another yeah I thought you got wiped I didn’t realize what the [ __ ] you said so now I’m telling you shut the [ __ ] up this was shot just as Smash Brothers Brawl had come out and the Gang made fun of his old review as well Smash Brothers is now released uh Tom uh Tommy has gone on record saying favorite game series of all time there’s this awful rumor on the internet as as there always is that I gave Smash Brothers like a 2.5 or something so the reality is that we we never you said LMO actually profile wiped I’m like oh wait you got wiped actually reviewed Smash Brothers ever on G4 so people on the internet who say that I gave Smash Brothers a low score yeah bite him Tommy is pointing to the giant model dinosaur he has in his garden anyway it’s clear this rumor really gets to him in an IGN Thread about his Mario Galaxy review this comes up and Tommy T shows up to defend himself because he Googles his name and has nothing better to do he claims it’s not true but refuses to say what the real score was because he thinks it’s fun watching people spout nonsense so never gave melee a 2.5 that’s just a rumor leave him alone here’s Tommy’s review of Smash Brothers Melee what you think about Super Smash Brothers Melee for the Nintendo GameCube well you know I got to tell you it’s another GameCube let down another GameCube disappointment in my book three out of 10 I give it a two and damn W you see him again Ask him be f with a four chanchan setup he he saw my stream and dm’ me a picture of him playing in bed he’s like yo you on to something I appreciate you goat he said this on TV people saw him the footage exists this isn’t speculation when Tommy does something people criticize him for even something dumb that doesn’t need defending like a video game opinion he just lies and says he never did it like why would you lie about something so stupid and easy to check I’m reaching the point where if Tommy says something it’s easier to assume he made it up his website used to have a page of famous people seen wearing Tarico Studios t-shirts which is a weird thing to document in the first place but the thing is though every single picture on it is photoshopped like what was his goal here what is he even trying to do Tommy’s stratospheric levels of clout chasing have hit a point where I literally can’t tell if he’s joking he has a gallery page with pictures of him performing and in magazines and so on and there’s a celebrity section showing off all the cool people he’s stood next to wow he’s really proud of some of them because he keeps reposting them this Jam Lee Curtis picture pops up on his Twitter when she’s in the news or it’s her birthday she’s a wonderful kind and talented human being and a fan of my video games live show but one of the pictures on here is really strange this one is of the Del llama apparently before the Amo situation deteriorated to the point he stepped down he used to post on the Atari age forums and people were discussing the amico’s karma gaming engine a feature Tommy later admitted he made up by the way during the conversation about Karma someone referenced to the Dal llama so of course he reposted that picture and said he met him in London and he liked his music the issue here is this later turned out to be a wax statue of the Del Lama from The Madame two swords in London this is an example of what I’ve decided to call the tallarico Event Horizon Tommy has lied so much about so many things I can’t even tell if this is meant to be a joke is he doing a bit is Tommy Taro a CIA experiment to see how far you can get in the liberal games industry by just making [ __ ] up is Tommy Tarico just a shadow on the wall of a cave I I started making this video because I thought a sound effect was funny I can’t tell if he’s joking or if he genuinely wants to convince people he met the Del Lama like I said this was in a conversation about an Amo feature it turned out he made up we have something that’s called a Karma gaming engine and what that means is that everybody no matter what you are skill level can feel like you have a chance and that you’re in the game I’m interested in the fact that you’re using the karma gaming engine uh where where did that come from okay so the karma gaming engine is just some [ __ ] we made up like he literally made it up to get people to invest and admitted it later everywhere you look Tommy is trying to build more prestige in ways that make no sense once Tommy had fled the Atari age forums after calling everyone a gaming racist and stepping down people started posting about how weird he was being and a guy told a story there about how he ran a display at the Houston Arcade Expo in 2018 showing off Olden television stuff right when the Amo had just been announced so he asked Tommy if he wanted him to put out some business cards advertising the Amo which he did his display won an award at the show and when he mentioned this to Tommy he allegedly asked him to mail him the award if this story is true Tommy just assumed that this award belonged to him this is just an allegation normally I wouldn’t bother putting this in the video but the problem is it tracks so well with a lifetime of taking credit for things he didn’t do and making up Awards I find this story too believable not to mention still this doesn’t mean Tommy hasn’t done good work in the industry or had any legitimate achievements to properly recognize the good work he’s done we ought to talk about gang the game audio Network Guild is a group of Industry professionals dedicated to improving the craft helping people Network and recognizing people’s achievements with Awards Tommy has won a lot of awards from the over the years at least 16 by my count and he’s clearly very proud of them because he puts them all up next to his Guinness World Records Tommy Taro is also the founder of gang recently uh I founded a nonprofit organization called the game audio Network Guild or gang it’s really funny seeing Tommy give tours of his house in his gang t-shirt and of his office with his gang desktop background and then going to his website and seeing 16 Awards from the group he founded and was on the board of directors of at the time Tommy Tarico composer and sound designer for video games also the president of the game audio Network Guild also known as gang gang even gave an award for best sound library to that sound pack he made with Joey’s help they’ve only given out that award four times in their 20year existence by the way and again these are awardwinning sound effects at least we know the Sounds in the Roblox kit really are award-winning like at this point research for a video that was supposed to be about the Roblox o has gone so far off course that I needed like something that was Baseline obviously true to hang on to so I could return to sanity so I asked myself what I thought would be the most obvious question was Tommy even on cribs on YouTube like I said there’s a lot there’s videos of your your house uh oh on it’s awesome right you did an MTV Cribs yeah yeah they T my house didn’t you have an episode of MTV Cribs back in the day yeah like he tells people it was cribs he uploaded a video to his YouTube channel saying it was cribs uhoh so was it no cribs is you know a TV show it has lists of episodes you can just check it was obviously a lie the entire time I don’t know how no one called him on it do Gamers just not know what cribs is cribs went to the home of massively successful musicians like Snoop Dogg and Maroon 5 or other really big celebrities like Tony [ __ ] Hawk they did not go to the home of the guy who might have made some of the skateboard sounds I was waiting I I was about to spoil it but I’m glad I didn’t I was like I can’t wait for he wasn’t even on [ __ ] absolutely no normal person watching MTV in the mid 2000s is going to know who Thomas the tallerico engine even is he did the soundtrack to earthworm jym he’s not a celebrity nobody gives a [ __ ] about his [ __ ] Fountain waterfall here which makes me want to pee at night oddly enough my mother’s very proud cribs had very specific Motion Graphics and they always showed the same factoids at the beginning every time using the same visual this video just has a wall of text MTV had a very specific Vibe with its backing tracks this thing uses easily identifiable stock music so identif iable YouTube flagged it but if it wasn’t cribs then what was it someone in the comments says they saw this on a disc that came with a Gaming magazine back in the day but I think they’re thinking of the other times he did that because Tommy’s a massive narcissist his website has a video section with a meticulous collection of his appearances and links to them on YouTube Some of which he uploaded himself he links this one and calls It MTV Cribs here too along with two of his PlayStation magazine appearances but here’s the thing Tommy’s website is ancient and has several much older versions preserved on the internet archive on the version from 2004 before YouTube was a thing he would just put the videos on his own site many of the videos on the old site ended up as links to YouTube videos on the new one the PlayStation magazine house tour and interviews are here along with this around the world in 0 games thing there doesn’t seem to be a cribs video on the old version of the site which is a bit of a red flag additionally there’s one house tour that didn’t seem to make it to the new one done by gamer TV the video itself on Tommy’s site wasn’t archived but gamer. TV was a show from the UK about gaming being hosted by S Delaney one episode had a feature on ways to make money in the game industry professional Gamers voice actors and of course a certain composer hey I’m Tommy Telico composer and sound designer for video gam hey wait a second hey I’m Tommy telerico composer and sound designer for video games so this episode is using a cut down version of the footage we saw in tommy’s video so now we know who really shot this footage gamer. TV used to have a website gamer. TV oh that’s clever it’s down now but in archives it’s clear the site used to have a video section with extra stuff one of the extra videos appears to be about a gamer with a Ferrari and a luxury home I think gamer. TV met Tommy and toured his house used clips from this in their show and uploaded the entire house tour as a bonus feature to their website the video linked here is sadly not archived either at least not directly it was preserved if say Tommy downloaded it and put it on his own website and then later moved his video archive to YouTube this is a kind of cool AC to video preservation except for the part where it somehow ended up being called MTV Cribs how did that happen I mean the file on his website was named correctly this would be a difficult thing to get wrong unless he did it on purpose Ms was on it’s awesome right is Tommy just like a pathological liar does he have to lie to sound more interesting no matter what oh he’s a good ass liar he ain’t been called out till like 30 years later he’s a good liar like how he went from saying he did some sounds for Prime to saying he worked on it with mamoto for 5 years or how he went from being one of the voices in PR skater to the audio director or how he went from doing three songs for Sonic and the Black Knight in 2009 to being the first American to ever get to kiss Sonic on his little mouth every time something comes up again the LIE has to get bigger in that newer house tour I showed the guy asks Tommy about if it was featured on cribs and he says it was on there more than once Tommy tarica has invited me to his TV crib this has been on the MTV crib right uh a couple times yeah yeah yeah why is he like this why are you like this I know you’re still watching Tommy explain yourself what are you doing what are you [ __ ] doing Prime Time the video uh we’re going to watch another video this I love this guy he has a really really long video that I’ll save for tomorrow but there’s a video I want to watch after this it’s about the antix movement and like the origins of it so he debunks it so yeah maybe every single thing Tommy has ever said Is A Lie maybe some of it is true but bear in mind that even if Tommy has lied that isn’t like a crime you can just lie to people watch I am a trained helicopter pilot see you can just say things no one can stop you however there are times when lying does become a crime and Tommy would know this intimately the other video is one that blew up uh what is it it’s uh where the [ __ ] is it it’s called plagiarism and YouTube so it’s a 4our video so half of the video is about like multiple creators that got caught plagiarizing the other half of the video is just for one creator so because it cost him $100,000 in 2009 after putting on a video games live event in Brazil Tommy returned to America with over $100,000 in cash on his person when you enter America with more than $110,000 you have to declare it for money laundering and trafficking reasons Tommy knew he had to do this but for some reason he didn’t his business associate who was also his brother filed a customs declaration on their common behalf denying they were bringing that much money into the country Tommy knew this was false when he was caught at a TSA checkpoint with a bag with 100 Grand in it there were some serious questions he quickly made up a story to explain himself he told them he didn’t need to declare the money because he had distributed it among his band members during the flight in amounts less than $10,000 and then took the money back once they were through customs so no one needed to declare anything Tommy thought he was being clever but he had just accidentally confessed to the crime of structuring where you deliberately avoid regulations by pulling stunts like this structuring is a federal felony with huge fines and up to 5 years in prison attached to it later he came clean and told investigators he lied and made up that story and actually he just took the money over the Border himself so when I call Tommy a liar that’s not just my opinion there is also a legal document signed by him admitting to it looking deeper into United States V tal Rico that’s its name Tommy pled guilty was placed on probation for a year forfeited the $112,000 seized by customs and had to pay a $1,000 fine plus a $25 assessment fee America there’s a really interesting lesson here in the game industry you can just lie about what games you worked on what sounds you made and whether you worked on crib what the [ __ ] was that is that a demon was that a demon what the [ __ ] was that and the only real repercussion is people find you unpleasant but if you try that with the TSA while carrying a large unexplained bag of money there can be consequences there are other ways lying can be a crime too for example if you lie to potential investors to get their money during one of Tommy’s many attempts to find investors for the Amo he told the exact kind of Tommy esque Tall Tales you would expect from him but in a situation where doing so can get you in serious trouble in February 2021 he recorded this video for potential investors and lists the team of So-Cal Avengers working at in television one of whom was Cara AKA a former marketing manager at Mattel on Disney Princesses and especially Frozen which would be a great find for the company and thinking she was on board might well have helped convince investors to part with their money if we scroll slightly higher on her LinkedIn though we can see she actually left in television in 2020 but here’s Tommy telling people in 2021 after she was gone he has her on board so you should definitely invest our VP of global marketing used to work at Mattel as one of the global brand managers over there right and she was in charge of the Disney brand within Mattel so that’s a double bonus there um is there a word for lying to people for money if this convinced people to invest they have grounds to say they were lied to about the status of the company you can’t just pretend people still work for you on their Republic crowdfunding Campaign which raised $ 11.5 million the pitch video for these investors featured AA heavily in Tommy’s disgusting Egypt room as VP of Global Marketing she was front and center as one of the intended drawers to investors she was basically the company’s Pharaoh she’s also still shown on the list of team members including ironically a link to her LinkedIn which will tell you she’s actually gone this crowdfunding campaign ended in 2021 there was a period of 4 months minimum where people were investing based on a video and information which was not accurate at the time and never corrected I be real that’s their own fault why the [ __ ] would you invest in a product that doesn’t have ainet the big year 2020 the intelvision website listed AKA as VP of Global Marketing as late as July 2021 according to the internet archive did the guy who ran the website quit too investors using this website as a source of information would have a hard time confirming who was actually at the company people don’t give investors don’t give you millions of dollars unless you have hard cold I certainly hope there some [ __ ] people gave this company millions of dollars like seriously I hope for in television sake a could just put the wrong date on her LinkedIn well there’s going to be some questions in fact if you click the invest button on the intevision website it takes you to the same video with AA still in it you know the Avengers right Marvel Avengers you know the the super team of superheroes ready to save the world also on Tommy’s list of Avengers was Jay Allard the co-founder of the Xbox and Xbox Live this would make the company look like it was on the right track and had some really good Minds attached to it however alled decided he wasn’t a good fit and left the company in 2020 here’s another one how about the guy who co-founded and co-created the Xbox right when Tommy was saying allot was on the team in this footage to get people’s money Allard was already gone he was gone to such an extent he didn’t just change his LinkedIn to say he wasn’t at the company anymore he removed it from his page completely alled unworked and television and after this happened Tommy was shooting a new video telling people he was in the Amo Avengers I mean this guy doesn’t even need to work anymore but he loves our idea and concept so much that he joined the team and has been making huge huge contributions this particular comment is incredible because on another investment platform remember fig Tommy had previously bragged about all’s involvement in that investor video too he was actually at the company when this one was made at least and in television share offering documents on fig also claimed alled was involved and that he was the global managing director a while after alled had left the secc noticed in television’s fig was still advertising he was there investors were technically being deceived also a major member of Staff like the global managing director leaving could be causing problems with making the product they were promising to investors you know so they asked fig what was going on orally someone at a government agency physically asked someone at fig what the hell was happening at in television fig asked in television to clarify in television panicked and said they would change the documents and product development was unaffected by his leaving because to quote fig quoting in television he has not played a material role in product development considering his contributions he joined the team and has been making huge huge contributions uh this is footage of a CEO right before his company tells a major government agency allot is gone and hadn’t made meaningful contributions telling people he’s on the team and has been making huge huge contributions to get their money I’m not a lawyer I’m just a pelop pilot but I don’t think it gets worse than this you know this is the kind of thing that’s like really I mean you going to believe me or them lying ass screenshots about a slam dunk the people working at the company are the main pitch for the Amo invest in me I don’t lose I have the best team I’ve been a winner in this industry my whole career I don’t lose and what I’ve done is packed our team with other people who are winners several of his key team members weren’t working there anymore when he recorded this one of them had even scrubbed it from his LinkedIn I don’t think this is giving potential investors an accurate impression of what they’re buying into this is the exact kind of thing Tommy normally does but in this context it’s really bad and this brings us to the real question at the center of all this the big thing we’ve been avoiding for the last hour while we Circle the Drain but we can’t avoid it anymore did Tommy make the funny baby sound effect remember when that was the point of the video when we look at the sum Collective of all of his claims the Taro totality if you will and we put it in context with uh reality when Tommy says he created the O this might just be me but I don’t believe him although at this point if Tommy confessed to a murder I would assume he was just trying to be cool I’m sure if I was a more reasonable person I could say the evidence is all inconclusive and Tommy could worked on the sound maybe but right now all I know is Tommy is a huge liar and I hate him and he made me forget what this video is about I promise you when I started making this video my goal was to make something short for once take a break from my longer projects to make a quick video quickly so people knew I was alive I did not expect while I was doing research for a rabbit hole to open beneath my feet and to fall Wy coyote style into an abyss of lies and Madness and see seemingly getting one of his Guinness World Records sent to the [ __ ] Shadow realm I didn’t choose this this happened to me and I’m not happy about it I wanted this to be a story about how in our Modern Age we don’t take ownership of artists work seriously enough through the lens of a sound effect that have been reused without credit for over a decade but the people not being credited in this story are the hardworking folks under Tommy who he has taken credit from over the years and the original voice actor none of whom will see any of the money Tommy makes from selling their sound today it is incredibly easy for hard work to be exploited by corporations and one of those corporations happens to be called Tommy talarico Studios Incorporated but that’s really a structural problem and we already all know capitalism is bad statistically your most formative memories are of a global financial crisis you don’t need that lecture from me I think the unique lesson of this story is about well records in multiple senses of the word what’s really at stake here is history how these events and people will be remembered Tommy has cultivated such a reputation that when I asked about the origins of a famous punch sound effect on Twitter someone independently brought him up and said they assume he must have done it he seems to have done everything at least he says he has the man has successfully inserted himself into conversations about sound effects he didn’t even make while the people who did the work attributed to him evaporate into namelessness no one knows who Joey curus is and he made the sound effects people think Tommy did he worked on [ __ ] fortnite I’ve heard his sound effects as they blast My Silver Surfer into dust it’s not right for him and people like him to be forgotten games have always had problems crediting authors correctly early games were seen as products first and creative Works second so credit wasn’t taken seriously creators used to not be allowed to put their name on the game and had to hide them in Easter eggs Mark cery ironically another good candidate for first American to work on Sonic wasn’t allowed to keep any of his work or design documents when he was working at Atari and his games were considered Atari Creations not his his source code notes and documentation were only preserved because someone got them out of a dumpster when Atari closed the office and threw it all out this problem has especially contributed to the perception of women working in games Yoko shimamura one of the most well-known video game music composers today a veritable industry icon one might say composed all but three of the tracks on the original arcade version of Street Fighter 2 but due to capcom’s crediting policy at the time she was credited via a pseudonym for her music’s appearance on Console releases and updated versions of the game she was not credited for her compositions at all all credit was given to the people who translated them to the new formats her contributions to game music history are only recognized properly decades afterwards because her early career was rendered invisible music she wrote often being credited to someone else this was widespread at the company the Capcom sound team throughout the 80s and early ’90s was almost entirely women just think about that for a second an extremely influential group of female early game composers all credited through pseudonyms or sometimes at all and with the ports of Music they composed credited to someone else maybe one of the reasons game development is perceived as a male-dominated industry is because all the women who’ve always been here keep getting left out of the history road if you’re interested in the topic I recommend the street fighter lady and female credit by Andy lemon and Honda reitveld I’ve linked them in the description and plagiarized them heavily in this section of the video but even when people are credited the recognition can easily be minimized Joey did some of the music for The Terminator Sega CD game but as as you can imagine this information has been rendered obscure thanks to a much larger musician making sure his name is remembered first the official CD release of the soundtrack has Tommy V Tarico stamped on the front it booklet says composed produced and performed by Tommy Tarico and calls Tommy a veritable video game industry icon of course the half a dozen people who collaborated with him and wrote the other half of the songs only appear on the back of the case at the bottom as footnotes with stars corresponding to which songs they actually made so their names don’t get noticed quite as much Joey’s song was so good Tommy saw fit to put it on another album with his name and face on it Tommy Tarico virgin game’s Greatest Hits Joey’s name is even smaller on the back of this one it’s not difficult to see why Joey’s contributions to game history are being forgotten reuploads of the full Terminator CD soundtrack onto YouTube Just say composed by Tommy there’s a re-upload of specifically Joey’s song Too the uploader who understandably missed the tiny note on the back of the CD case credits it to Tommy the Top com is a guy called Joey cus explaining that he actually made it but also thanking people for their kind words we’re at the point the actual composers have to explain they made the song in the comments of re-uploads of their work misattributed to their old boss finally God damn this extends back into the regular music industry as a whole of course but also into material we covered here Michael Jackson’s long rumored now semic confirmed work on Sonic 3 isn’t all it’s cracked up to be either like a certain other composer Michael had people who worked for him according to Brad bucker an American keyboardist and composer who did a lot of work with Jackson and actually is credited on Sonic 3 Jackson basically made him do most of it once you’re well enough established it only gets easier to exploit the talents of people working for you and build up your own status on the back of something you’ve made someone else do the industry is still constructed in a way that treats individual creators usually the biggest names on the project as the true authors attributing A Game’s success to them and not the many people who did the work things are so bad even the recipients of this praise have called it out to quote one of the worst articles ever written there’s a tendency among the press to attribute the creation of a game to a single person says Warren Spectre creator of thief and deex the journalistic attitude to Credit in gaming used to be so awful it’s not even clear who wrote this the article is credited to IGN staff basically all success and appreciation pours directly into selected industry figureheads even when there actively trying to stop it from happening and a lot of them aren’t because even if it’s a problem it’s a problem that benefits them you can tell a lot about an industry by how it treats the people who actually do the work in terms of the scope of time the average game developer is [ __ ] the hundreds and sometimes thousands of people who work on games now throw away years of their lives and so many of them go completely unappreciated meanwhile the most assholish men in the industry continue to promote themselves off the back of the efforts of the people working for for them imagine making great sound effects for years and years only for your boss to tell some guy in a Halloween mask on a live stream with a 100 views that he did it we don’t recognize the work and achievements of people who make games we recognize the people who exploited that work the best it’s so easy for history and credit to get wiped away case in point we could have never learned that the O was from Messiah and assumed Roblox made it forever but it’s not even the Roblox oof in my household we call it the m o there are thousands of people whose good work on games will never be properly credited who we might have already forgotten about gaming is still a young medium but already the Sands of our history are spilling through our Monster Energy Soden fingers entire games are at risk of being forgotten never mind the human beings who created them the most valuable contribution Tommy has made to the story is mentioning that the voice actress was the daughter of someone who worked at shiny entertainment at the time her father worked at shiny entertainment the girl whose voice was the oof would be close to 30 now she might even have heard it and not even known it was her she might not even remember recording it the people who know who this was and the parent who worked on the game those people aren’t going to be around forever we have a limited time to learn who this was the thing about history is it happens and then it’s gone if we don’t work to preserve it eventually it becomes impossible to quote a famous Nintendo quit screen everything not saved will be lost and just as a kicker how hard it is to remember things accurately the popularized version of the quote is wrong it’s actually anything not saved I’m not trying to be a pedant for once it’s kind of poignant how easy it is for things to shift like that if we don’t set a precedent of taking people’s work and the accuracy of records of who did what seriously we leave it to the liars and opportunists of the world to make up that history to the spin-off of a beer company to tell us who did what and it honestly on a spiritual level fills me with IMM grief thinking about the people who made care about dying unrecognized for what they did and being forgotten gaming is just old enough that they losing that first generation Tommy got the rights to in television because he bought them from the estate of its last president when he passed away the name The Branding it’s his now the original in television YouTube channel with some of the final appearances of its former president one of the world’s first ever game designers along with the original in television website with its beautiful web 1.0 history of the company are now relegated to obscurity under another name while Tommy continues to use that name to advertise a product that doesn’t even exist the damage to a history people are at real risk of forgetting whose main characters are dying might already have been done what history will look like 20 30 100 years in the future is being decided now now is the time to decide if Tommy Taro made the O for Roblox or if Joey cus made it for messiah and Tommy has already put his finger on the scale decided how he wants all this to be remembered if you buy his new sound pack the metadata in the Roblox oof has been changed to say Tommy Tarico those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it that’s a quote commonly attributed to Winston Churchill but he was actually probably paraphrasing George santiana that was me being a pedant old habits die hard but here is a corollary I came up with all by myself those who let huers write the history they’re trying to learn from are doomed in some other horrible way and for one I don’t think history gets to be written by a guy who wasn’t even on Cribs it wasn’t even cribs it wasn’t even on Cribs I love this guy hold on Lo up the next video all his videos are good this one don’t watch don’t watch don’t damn dude [ __ ] God damn it why is it taking so goddamn to load damn there we go so this one’s called vaccines and autism a measured response uh I could tell you as a kid that got vaccinated it does cause [Music] autism don’t worry vaccines are perfectly safe according to me you might notice a little [Laughter] prick hello and welcome back to hell I’m just vaccinating by the way this guy only releases like one video a year you can’t tell and they always Bang by profit rols immunizing them against the horrendous disease known only as not enough cream itis unfortunately while vaccines are great at stimulating my balls in humans they’ve become quite the controversial Topic in the late ’90s an antivaccine movement started to pick up steam claiming that they cause autism and the movement has plenty of washed up celebrities gives a [ __ ] what Jim Carrey says and I follow a lesbian on Tik Tok that looks just like him I don’t need Jim Carrey anymore including what’s his name and that one and some more no not Kevin Gates Kevin Gates he see see now I now I believe uh vaccines cause autism because Kevin Gates was able to start a car battery with his hands so he said may God strike my children right now here’s 45th president of the United States Donald Trump coming out against medicine he wants famously tweet no more massive injections tiny children are not horses I mean of course they aren’t horses aren’t even real but if there an entire movement of people with documentaries and websites and Facebook pages with thousands and thousands of members backed by the former US president why does everyone else seem to think they’re obviously wrong has the mainstream medical establishment science cucked a majority of people into thinking they’re safe so they can keep making money selling them the vaccine debate is complex and multi-layered and hasn’t been resolved for over two decades so obviously it needs me to come and put an end to it in the space of a single YouTube video video by doing what I’m best at destroying things with my [Music] mouth oh hi Mom was I vaccinated have you been looking into moving out lately son now the clever clogs among you will know that there was an antivaccine movement of sorts in the 1800s when they were first introduced uced but that movement died out on its own a long time ago of small pox the main argument in the modern movement is that they might cause autism so let’s see what on paper this claim is supported by you want to know what uh I speaking of that by the way let’s just say vaccines do cause autism right let’s just say they do cause autism why are people making it seem like it’s a terminal illness you know what I mean like why the [ __ ] I don’t know by yes I just ended a sentence with a preposition and if that annoyed you we get it your school was expensive we’re all very happy for you part one the easy version in case you don’t feel like watching this whole [ __ ] video in 19 98 a study came out alleging a link between the MMR vaccine and autism MMR vaccinates against meel mums and rubella which saves kids from having to get multiple painful shots and parents from having to know what rubella is it was published in the Lancet a very well-known medical journal which made it seem credible however the paper was eventually found guilty of being bad the science turned out to be Bonkers and multiple other studies on literally millions of children did not show that there was a link and the paper was eventually retracted by the Journal that published it so retracted that it literally has retracted written all across every page in Big Red Letters my printer just do black and white so I’ve actually got an artist’s impression of the real version so far that’s some pretty Shaky Ground on the antivaccine side but later new evidence came out that oh that’s it that’s all the evidence this segment is over now part two yeah you know what I’m like obviously I don’t have an extreme case I have a very M actually I have a really extreme case never mind but it’s like people make it seem like it’s the end of the world like now this is going to sound terrible but I don’t care now if people were like saying vaccines make kids have special needs that would be different you know what I mean that’s way different than just autism oh no my kid’s going to want to eat the same food a lot and he’s going to have a schedule the existential horror of wait that’s it no seriously that’s all the evidence there is nothing else even remotely credible there are some Fringe pet theories as to what chemical in the vaccines causes the autism but since vaccines don’t cause autism they’re kind of putting the cart before the squid here the antiva movement had next to no evidence 20 years ago and now they have even less but hold on there Daddyo sure you can sum up the entire issue in 52 seconds wow but really I don’t think that’s good enough and also one of my terrible opinions but I don’t care if I were to like I’m not but if I were to ever to be having a child and we discovered early on that the child was going to have special needs I would say look we need to like terminate this uh give it up for adoption obviously it’s your body your choice but if you keep this baby I’m leaving I’ll I’ll pay support CU I cuz you are now cuz the thing is I grew up hanging out with my friend Caleb his sister has special needs and autism she will live with Caleb’s parents for the rest of her life and then obviously probably a group home whenever they pass so like I couldn’t do that everyone who’s antiva at this point has probably already heard and isn’t convinced by the easy version I mean if you’re on the fence about vaccines you’re not going to change your mind because someone told you there was a paper once but it got retracted no matter how much they pitch shift their voice in post but what if you did want to change someone’s mind on topics like this the data on this issue is discouraging research shows that when someone becomes personally invested in well I mean just in general like like extra extra care you know what I mean I’m like no I couldn’t do that yeah especially that like yeah exactly they can become very close-minded or worse a YouTuber political science Professor Brendan Nyan and his team spent three years studying how over 17700 parents reacted to various different attempts to convince them to vaccinate their children and found that no matter what they tried parents who started out against vaccination didn’t change their minds and worse trying to correct false claims about vaccines actually made some parents more against vaccinating nian told the New Yorker it’s depressing we were definitely depressed now as a fellow fan of logic and reason I’m also doing great but in today’s particular shall we say socioeconomic climate it’s extra pressing that we figure out I mean just try to swap a Lobby there’s no point in inviting see if you can find one Higher and then invite me this only like four minutes to get everyone on the same page with regards to Public Health so the purpose of this video isn’t just to point out a group that’s wrong about something the real question unless you want me to war when someone is wrong about something not just this how do you change their mind now personally I’m not sure how to do that if it was easy for humans to change their mind about stuff then this video wouldn’t need to exist would it but maybe we’ll find some answers by exploring what convinced people vaccines might be dangerous in the first place we should probably begin with that old 1998 study because let’s be honest how many people on either side of this discussion have actually read it people don’t read scientific papers they check out the blogs or videos of people who they already agree with and they tell them what the science said and I mean all right let’s do this whoever warps the person that got warped leaves the party cuz I don’t want to type exra I’m lazy same I heard all the other people say the science was bad and I believed them and the antix people probably just believed whoever told them it was true so to be unbiased about this let’s really start at the beginning look at the original paper that’s all all I can say about this video y’all are going to laugh your ass off about how this even came about which is why I anytime I hear anybody against vaccines I laugh cuz cuz by the way especially with the co you know Co isn’t new right like they’ve been creating vaccines for this disease since 2010 people just assumed oh yeah it’s it was just made on the Fly I mean I’m going be honest if you got the Johnson and Johnson uh vaccine you probably are going to die but let’s actually read this old paper and see what it has has to say and come to an honest conclusion about its finding 5 minutes later what the [ __ ] this is why people are against vaccines this is the worst [ __ ] paper I’ve ever read in my life I mean at this point like who cares anymore I got mine like I said I’ve only gotten Co once I just get pissed when people are like I got my vaccine and I still got Co yeah dumbass it doesn’t make you invincible it makes it to where you don’t literally have your inside shut down when you get it like right let’s talk about the study I’m calling it The study because its real title was ilal lymphoid nodular hyperplasia non-specific colitis and pervasive developmental disorder in children which is a bit of a tongue twister I had to do a not insignificant amount of Googling to find out whether it’s pronounced ilel or iel don’t know why I bothered if I got it wrong it’s not like you would have noticed the paper’s lead author is Dr Andrew Wakefield I’m sorry there’s a mistake in my script the paper’s lead author is disgraced exd Doctor Andrew Wakefield Wakefield is seen by many as the founder of the modern antivaccine movement since he was behind the paper that started the whole thing let’s keep an eye on that oh [ __ ] the smoke machine occasionally goes off on its own for no reason I can’t be bothered to get up the paper’s supposed purpose was to investigate a connection between vowel disorders and developmental issues in children in particular targeting signs of autism so first off what’s a kitis right uh hold on okay kitis is inflammation of the colon one of the main symptoms of bowel diseases like Crohn’s disease for example kitis by the way we’re going to use words like bowel colon and intestine interchangeably in this video Don’t Let It confuse you they’re mostly the same thing if you’re doct I pretend you didn’t hear that the paper says non-specific kitis because it’s not looking for specific kinds of inflammation it’s looking at whatever inflammation these children happen to have and seeing how they compare because maybe they’re all linked and maybe they’re even linked to the autism according to Wakefield he just happened of kids with both autism and and he launched the stud but what does all that have to do with vaccines I mean surely it must have found something for it to have caused all this contr well allow me to list the paper’s highly scientific findings some of the parents of the children in the study think they remember the autism symptoms starting after the MMR vaccine no really that’s itally onset of Behavioral symptoms was Associated by the parents with meel mums and rubella vaccination for literally decades right I’ve been hearing about this paper and I’ve assumed that there must have been something thing there like something to at least explore or discuss or debunk everyone lost their [ __ ] minds over it so surely there’s something and I finally go and read it and it’s just a bunch of [ __ ] parents’ opinions it’s there’s nothing there I can’t [ __ ] believe this oh he threw the dookie at the wall like seriously the disconnect between the attempts at real science and the stuff the parents think they remember is like so jarring like next to colonoscopies and biopsies and graphs of urinary excretions you’ll suddenly get sentences like he received a dose of measel mums and rubella vaccine the day after which his mother described a St deterioration in his behavior that she did link with the immunization oh wait it’s back to back powder I think unless I just joined a Lobby that would just started the times two and I just left it okay try to find a longer Lobby because I just got in a lob because it’s back to back but a note from your mother isn’t science it’s how you get out of PE I’m sorry I didn’t really have polio maybe some home decorating will relax me I love this poster because I’m smart and now all my guests will know I’m smart I have tons of guests I’m a party animal I have a Charisma of at least six I wonder why the economist interviewed Contra points and not me there perfect does that look all right to you no Rachel don’t wave the camera that’s not how people communicate page three of the study provides a listing each child’s behavioral diagnosis largely autism and also what their parents identified as their exposure the thing which in their opinion caused the diagnosis of course most of them blame the vaccine now while a bunch of opinions are about as useful in science as a bath made of teeth we might as well explore how someone might end up having that opinion it’s actually really common for us to actually hey Angie yeah could you draw me as a feret please okay why I will not explain why it’s actually really common for us to assume two things that happen to us around the same time must be caused by one another that’s how we as ape people whose fur fell off one day think about things with our tiny Godless little monkey brains if you ate some strange new berries and got sick that day you’re basically programmed to connect the two for the sake of your own Survival this is the one in 10 times that evolutionary psychology is real the rest are fake Malcolm but these correlations we make in our heads between events aren’t NE necessarily true it might not have been the berries it could have been all the budget energy drinks you import from Thailand you know what maybe you can have too much caribow another big problem here is how humans relate to spans of time just like how under quarantine you might not even notice 4 months passing because nothing happens anymore if someone coughs on you today and later in the evening you start to feel a bit sick a lot of people might remember being coughed on and assume that’s how they got it but illnesses can take days or weeks to incubate maybe you don’t remember the time you got coughed on two weeks ago by the guy who was delivering the last Creative Energy drink I I don’t even know I’m just doing it cuz I’m lazy oh caribow why is it so hard to quit you win football tickets I can’t wait to be in a crowd of people again the table claims some of the parents notice the symptoms a few weeks days or even hours after getting the vaccine but I do have to wonder how easy it is for someone to recall something as complex as the exact date of the onset of a child’s behavioral symptoms a BBC documentary from back in the day interviewed a parent and they said on camera that their son became autistic overnight after the vaccine what happened to your son overnight he had the fever the high literally overnight he was never the same again even the interviewer was like literally literally overnight like are you sure the signs of autism appear gradually and grow over time when parents first take notice there could easily be no I was just I I didn’t know if it actually breaks extra blocks or not so I was just doing it I probably shouldn’t so the other signs they missed another better documentary about all this we’ll get to later actually found parents who realized they’d made this exact mistake Stacy and Damian no longer believe that their daughter’s autism was caused by MMR after researching and remembering Rebecca as a baby they realized that she had already shown symptoms before she was vaccinated parents don’t necessarily notice the symptoms until they’re fairly obvious but that doesn’t mean the symptoms weren’t there or their child wasn’t autistic beforehand I’m bringing this up because it’s important to make the distinction that whenever someone describes something like their child’s first symptom what they are really describing is the first symptom they personally noticed here’s a timeline of the first two years of a child’s development statistically the average age that symptoms of autism become noticeable to parents is around 12 to 18 months children in the UK receive a dose of the MMR vaccine from between 12 to 15 months isn’t it possible that these parents are blaming a coincidental event you can even see evidence that this happens in the paper because some of the other parents blame other totally coincidental events one of them blames their child’s autism on an ear infection they got a week before they first noticed the symptoms do ear infections cause autism now no no of course not but if it was the only other thing that you remembered happening to your child you can see how someone might end up assuming they’re related oh cuz they’re dumb what before this study was released there were a few very small clusters of parents that thought vaccines caused autism or other illnesses I joined and basic support group where they really worked hard to make their name say Jabs had been around for a few years beforehand the founder of Jabs Jackie Fletcher asserts to this day that her son suddenly became severely autistic 10 days after his MMR vaccination and as frequently tried to sue the government and MMR manufacturers for money over it it’s important to recognize that statistically even if vaccines are perfectly safe you’re going to get a small amount of parents like her who are convinced that vaccines are harmful because they got one right before something like this happened before there was a scientific paper and thousands of news pieces telling them to there really weren’t that many parents of autistic children who blamed the vaccine according to a proj Jabs piece made in May 2002 when the scare was happening there were thousands of members but before all that there were only about 30 sets of parents at best and speaking of groups being being too small to be statistically meaningful another big problem or to put it another way a small problem is sample size please hold your applause until the end on its own a study of a small sample size like 12 children can’t prove anything about the rest of a population I’ve made this point about people drawing sweeping conclusions from small studies before however it’s important to understand sample size criticisms in the proper context studies on small groups happen all the time in science for a good reason they’re often called pilot studies and they useful for figuring out how a bigger study should work in preparation for the real thing or for checking to see if there’s something worth looking into in the first place a fraction of parents of the tens of millions of children who’ve had this vaccine saying they think there might be a connection is at best grounds to do a better study on a bigger group of children to find out if this connection actually exists we’re going to come back to this later because someone had the opportunity to do one of those and what they did with that opportunity is very interesting that was an awful take let me do that again in summary the science is really bad it’s bonkers the study even admits it doesn’t prove anything at the end we did not prove an association between measles Ms and rubella vaccine and the syndrome described the next sentence is hilarious biological studies are underway that may help to resolve this issue the issue being that they don’t have any proof in science it’s expected to admit the limitations of your study papers and medical journals have high standards for what constitutes solid proof proof however Wakefield is using this as a shield by hiding behind the defense that he hasn’t claimed to prove anything he can then speculate about a lot of things he hasn’t proved for example these children appear to share similar though non-specific bowel problems I say appeared because well we’ll come back to that but Wakefield takes this vague collection of similar things and concludes with the theory that could make his career that the vaccine may cause autism and it happens through the bowels we have identified a chronic enterocolitis I got I got autism cuz my but hole children that may be related to Neuropsychiatric dysfunction in most cases onset of symptoms was after measel moms and rubella immunization further investigations are needed to examine the syndrome and its possible relation to this vaccine in literally the final sentences of the paper Wakefield invents a new disease that combines bowel disorders and autism and then speculates that MMR vaccination might cause the disease he just made up this is absolutely Buck Wild as some would put it it’s like medical fanfiction sure he admitted it just maybe and said we need more research to prove anything but now his madeup disease is in a published scientific paper in one of the most prestigious medical journals in the world journalists with little to no scientific knowledge go on to report on this paper as if it’s discovering this new disease doctors at the Royal free hospital believe they may have discovered a between the combination vaccine and a bowel disease that can progress to autism what are you talking about he admitted he didn’t prove anything and then wildly speculated at the end no there is one last really weird thing about this paper we haven’t mentioned yet which most people don’t seem to mention which I find a little bit weird and indicates that no one has actually read it towards the end of the paper uh Wakefield tries to find other papers that kind of support his findings so he really has to scrape the bottom of the barrel fenberg noted that that for 15 of 20 autistic children the first symptoms developed within a week of vaccination wow that’s a really interesting thing to isn’t it we should probably actually go read fooden BG’s paper and see what it has to say for itself shout out to fenberg he’s from South Carolina baby you know how we do it yes sir fooden BG’s 1996 paper cited here is from biotherapy a fringe journal for quacks that actually went out of business 2 years later the paper is a pilot study on the effects of a substance called dialysable lymphocytoma that this extract he’ created could cure autism of the 22 with classic autism 10 became normal in that they were mainstreamed in school and clinical characteristics were fully normalized became normal holy [ __ ] and you want to know something funny you want to know something funny at the time that the study was published fenberg didn’t have a medical license it was revoked the year before because he was caught stealing controlled substances from his job for personal use the South Carolina Medical Board found him guilty of engaging in dishonorable unethical or unprofessional conduct he admitted he’ done it in the hearing too so he got caught stealing drugs admitted it got fired lost all credibility probably wasn’t even allowed within a 100 yards of a stethoscope and then a year later he cured autism according to him and you know he’s trustworthy because he admitted to stealing all those medical supplies what I’m trying to say here is ex do Hugh fooden BG’s paper is one of the most obviously [ __ ] things I’ve ever read and Wakefield had to sight it to create a precedent for his findings this is the best he could get you can see why it’s a bit weird no one brings this up right in scientific circles everyone who read wakefield’s paper or Worse bothered to check the sources it cited had you know a few minor concerns it was so concerning that the Lancet published in the same issue a response to the paper vaccine Adverse Events causal or coincidental it points out numerous problems some of which we’ve discussed here already and has some words to say about fear-mongering about vaccines like this vaccine safety concerns such as that reported by Wakefield and colleagues May snowball into societal tragedies when the media and the public confuse association with causality and shun immunization this would be tragic because passion would then conquer reason and the facts again in the UK this commentary would probably have seemed Darkly apocalyptic at the time but in retrospect it was a shockingly accurate prediction like they knew they [ __ ] warned us so even before the paper was in the public eye other doctors and scientists were looking at it and saying this ain’t it Chief is that still a current reference I’ve aged 10 years in the last two weeks don’t want him to ever say that again I hate that phrase with a passion is meaningless but despite a lot of obvious concerns and clear weaknesses Wakefield published the study anyway and then and this is weird he immediately held a press conference about it this isn’t something that anyone normally does in science especially not after publishing a five-page study that admits it didn’t prove anything the paper was so small and its findings so insignificant that it barely even qualifies as a paper in fact it was published in the lanet as an early report see in the top left corner doing on it you got to be quicker on the draw than that holding a press conference for this is something you do if you want attention for your cont controversial paper not if you’re trying to do science and here’s where the whole thing really started during the press conference Wakefield pretended his study had discovered a risk so Earth shaking that the government should stop using the MMR vaccine and replace it with meel M Sor vaccines given separately one more case of this is too many we put children at no greater risk if we dissociate those vaccines but we may be ating the possibility of this problem this is moment that changed everything Wakefield told a room full of reporters that based on his study he felt the MMR vaccine could be putting millions of Children at Risk the mainstream media were in love with the notion that the paper had found something so they ran with it all the way into hell the paper was bad sure but mass movements against vaccines don’t start because of the release of a paper like we discussed people don’t read papers I didn’t read it for like 20 years and you know who else didn’t read it every journalist who reported on it but when a doctor publicly says the government is putting millions of Children at Risk with a vaccine rolled out Nationwide even if his paper’s a load of old [ __ ] you got to report on that the possibility was too tantalizing to ignore it’s really hard to get across how unavoidable the issue was if you even glanced at a TV or a newspaper in the mid 2000s it was MMR might cause autism or it was Princess Diana is still dead diesel thousands of people every year but today he died cuz I threw down a banana peel on the roads about the vaccine s vaccination could be linked to a new side effect a combination of bowel disease and autism hundreds of Articles news pieces and documentaries were made about the potential significance of this study they rarely show or discuss the contents of the paper itself but the doctor behind it came out against MMR there’s a potential link there’s a potential link every everybody panic and do you know what happens when every news resource is screaming about the potential risks of a vaccine you make millions of people terrified to vaccinate their children I was growing up during the mm scare and the main thing I remember from the TV news at that time was big shots of pointy needles and children screaming as they get given an injection and ominous voiceovers saying oh these vaccines might be dangerous it’s almost like TV deliberately scares people for Ratings because that’s how this works that’s the entire point if you want to know why thousands of parents think MMR gave their children autism it’s not because they came to that conclusion on their own we’ve seen how before all of this reporting happened only a teeny tiny minority of parents made the connection between Autism and the vaccine they could only find seven parents of autistic children who blamed MMR in the original study even the only thing that changed was how many news outlets were telling everyone the vaccine might cause it after years of the media telling them it could have been the jab some parents started to believe it the symptoms started to appear when he was two soon after he had his MMR this is the age at which autism usually develops but his parents don’t believe it’s coincidence his parents didn’t believe it was a coincidence because every news resource was telling them it might have something to do with the vaccine and trusting that the media had done the work and knew what they were talking about they believed what they were being told the end result of Publications and broadcasts like this was a lot of concerned parents a lot of unvaccinated children and a whole lot of new cases of measles with inoculation rates falling to dangerous levels in Ireland the debate over MMR has been fueled still further by a measles outbreak which killed three children whatever the official evidence which rejected a link between MMR and autism fewer parents were prepared to take a risk I wonder why that might be could it be because every time you turned on the television there footage of a screaming child with a needle in its arm once literally every other doctor had come out saying look there’s no proof please stop doing this a lot of journalists got really defensive suddenly and started putting out pieces like no I will not stop reporting scaremongering [ __ ] wait the same journalist wrote both of these she just spent like six months of her career complaining about people criticizing her amazing so what was Andrew Wakefield doing during all this well he was getting interviewed nonstop and having Clips played in almost all of these news pieces he was like a celebrity especially to the growing list of parents newly convinced by the media’s reporting that he’ discovered why their children had autism for a couple of years Andrew Wakefield was the sort of guy who you filmed in slow motion in black and white holy [ __ ] Wakefield used his time in the spotlight to spread even more doubt about MMR and continue to repeat the recommendation that parents get separate vaccines Instead at the press conference in interviews in the aftermath and four whole times on a 23-minute videotape he sent to journalists he claims he thinks separate vaccines would avoid the risk of autism Andrew Wakefield says he appealed to the the chief medical officer more than six months ago to give worried parents the option of the single vaccine my recommendation has been that children should continue to be vaccinated but to separate the vaccines there is sufficient anxiety in my own mind the safety the long-term safety of the polyvalent that is the MMR vaccination in combination uh that I think that it should be suspended in favor of the single vaccines there is sufficient anxiety in my own mind that it would be sensible to divide them into separate doses is sufficient anxiety that the parents must have a choice of how they protect their children it’s really kind of interesting that while the modern antivaccine movement insists that all vaccines are dangerous in some way the guy who started the fear and anxiety that led to this was Pro vaccine we Advocate vaccination this is not antivaccine in any way he was really specific about the fact that he thought parents should keep vaccinating just that they should use alternatives to MMR the single vaccines are likely in this concept context would be safer remember that disease he speculated about at the end of his paper that there might be some kind of bowel disorder caused by MMR that then leads to autism this came up in the media a lot as well could the MMR jab be causing a strange new kind of B disease that was turning the children autistic these pumps andella given together may be too much for the immune system of some children to handle there is an aatt disease a new syndrome associated with regressive autism and that that may be related to mm eventually he even came up with a name for it autistic enterocolitis wakefield’s Theory when he tries to explain it is that the almost dead measles virus present in the MMR vaccine can get stuck in the intestine somehow causing all that inflammation they apparently found in the study more on that later which leads to it not digesting certain foods like bread and milk properly turning them into his words a morphine like substance which then leaks out of the and into the brain causing autism morphine like substances from the gut that you and I produce in our diet from milk and wheat are actually getting access through that leaky gut into the developing brain this theory is uh very strange one of the many strange things about it is that it specifically implicates the measles part of the vaccine if measles when it’s in a vaccine can cause a syndrome that leads to autism how could you possibly be so certain that the separate vaccine for measles would be safe the risk of this particular syndrome developing is related to the combined vaccine the MMR rather than the single vaccines okay sure but why on what basis are you saying that Andy How could a doctor so easily make that recommendation and it may be that giving the measles on its own reduces the risk of this particular syndrome developing he just keeps saying it my opinion again is that the monovalent the single vaccines meel Ms andella are lightly in this yeah I think I’m going to call it here and probably hit the haze soon live [ __ ] while appreciate everybody coming hanging out see you guys laters