Shocking! Can Pro Gamers Detect a Cheated Minecraft Speedrun?

I’ve gathered several top-level minecraft speeders to react to three back-to-back lesser-known minecraft speedruns but there’s a catch one of the three is secretly fake run on a set seed by me while the other two are legit and verified on the leaderboards can i fool them with a cheated speedrun or can

These pros spot the odd run out up first we have the six time all advancements world record holder and the speedrun tournament king feinberg next up we have the 1.16 former world record holder the one who has held multiple other minecraft speedrun world records and the one who has beaten minecraft one

Thousand times in a row curry way and last but certainly not least arguably the greatest minecraft speedrunner of all time world record holder in countless categories the legend himself illumina before we start i’ve asked a question how confident are you going into this you said it was like a

Like a set seed run i think it’s pretty it’s usually pretty obvious to tell if someone pre-routes something because there’s like a lot of a lot of rsg is just getting info about the seat you’re playing as fast as possible like the set cedar one might not era or they might

Have pyramid or they might just gas on a fortress it should be pretty easy but i mean people can disguise set seed runs pretty well so i don’t know i’m confident but i could definitely be proven wrong hello curry way how confident are you feeling going into this i’ve speed around minecraft

Probably more than anyone ever so i feel pretty good about being able to tell if this run is gonna be fake or not hello illumina so my first question before we get started how are you feeling all right do you think you’re gonna be able

To do this do you think you’re gonna win or do you think you’re gonna pick a wrong run half cop cheated runs in the past before okay okay so maybe that’s a man i think that’s worth something i think that’s worth something ocean seeds starting with a dolphin looks like you

Might need that dolphin to make this seed good i see okay okay mushroom island pog all advancements okay using the dolphin that dolphin just happened to be there very good gameplay like this is very clearly world record mechanics from what i’ve seen so far are they front loading okay that is something to

Know not front loading wood i don’t know if that’s us but i think most people would i felt like they went to that ravine a little weirdly but nothing too crazy solid enter 215 lava bucket ready for action wait there’s one bit sus it’s almost as if they knew

There was going to be one i don’t initially think this run is cheated but i’d like to the end game might give a lot of info away on how the blind works and stuff pretty standard gameplay the only oh and then they see the fortress

Solid solid oh my god okay so it’s a little bit interesting i guess it’s not too weird that they skip the chest they run this triple and get the trades maybe that’s pretty nice makes sense right play yeah this one’s probably fine obviously i don’t have two to compare it

To right so maybe the other two look like very very normal also and then it’s weird to figure out but i really don’t think this run is cheated off the bat could have crafted golden carrots deciding not to want to make sure they get as much trades as possible we did

Even check the chests up there i don’t even oh now he’s going back to this chest okay that’s pretty sad so i don’t know why he didn’t just i mean i don’t know the optimal players like to wait for pearls and then pearl hang to the spawner another four but oh 16

19 beauty only 22 strings also this player is not really making the best like top level player decisions but like obviously not everyone has the best decision making interesting terrain management i guess i mean i’m pretty sure they have pearls that they could have thrown a bit earlier but i guess

This is fine i don’t think this one is unless something like incredibly goes wrong are they blind at some really really weird spot well the whole gameplay is just reminiscent of like getting info everywhere like trying to trying to play for the info always which

Is obviously how you would play an rsg because you don’t know the seed beforehand yeah they know how to nab the fortress that that’s a good question we don’t have to go down yep all right it seems like they know how to do that yeah it goes towards the stairs okay they

Know how to nav definitely annoying me that they’re eating these raw carrots when they have 12 wheat in their inventory definitely definitely pissing me off but it’s okay i guess whatever whatever this player wants to do they have one bed one anchor it looks like so that’s a bit unfortunate but it’s triple

So you’re just kind of expect to get rolled on something yeah just normal stuff so far i think i mean maybe you build the first portal to do educated and overlap with blazes but it’s not like again just a small misplay oh and like i said there we go crazy crazy good

Crank good crank what are they they’re like two for seven two for ten wow getting absolutely rolled by these blazes if this is fake it’s not a freak it’s not a rate change that’s for sure if the next one i see they get like six for six i’m probably just gonna these

Rates are awful three for twelve go four for twelve you should probably do the thing built the first portal is just not gonna use it i mean like now it’s not even a big deal because ninja brain bot does everything automatically but back then you wanted to like overlap the math

You know i’m getting rolled i’m surprised they should definitely at least still check they’re blind no reason to not do that while you’re just sitting here it’s only four rods they i don’t know why they’re not going for their portal you’re gonna have to come back through unless they’re you’re gonna

Just like hit a nice buy or something okay cords they’re in the ring could i spy bam no village oh and we need the beds how clutch maybe this one is cheated village blind okay throw their eye 73.6 axis okay no calculator respect it oh and this solves their bed problem i

Just realized so that’s actually pretty baller so what do they have they have five bed one anchor okay are you like going for a zero cycle or what here you want to be sure you want to be sure that 12 wheat is still in your inventory

Surely i’ll crack the bread this is what makes distance estimation so good if you get an ocean and portland’s exposed like obviously you’re not going to like pour into the stronghold but if you guys see like this it’s still like really good there’s the library i think based on how big that

Room is jeez plays this smart by going around the island assuming that light is the portal room what’s not because the player was thinking the same thing so you go starter and then you nab most of the strongholds probably below you or to the right whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what is happening

Mineshaft dungeon hello down dungeon my what is happening oh my goodness dungeon minecart chest portal room and the library you can see through the iron bars incredible they can make an anchor maybe they just don’t want to i respect it beds only sure come on they

Need to pb their pb’s 1404 oh put it in the obsidian on the right side okay this one’s fake i believe in them they’re gonna pb oh tough damage on that second bed oh good five bed maybe five bad axe oh they’re close to that definitely not

Cheated in my opinion if you don’t put on the left side it runs not legitimate oh it has to use the axe they get it in five reverse nice oh no they didn’t oh my god it was just on zero health unlucky there they go not a bad run

You’ve watched the first run real fake what do you think so far i mean i’ve only seen the one i haven’t seen the other two the weirdest thing to me is definitely the dolphins at the start what are you thinking so far real fake how confident are you with that

Assertion i am 99.9 percent confident this is real definitely kind of weird like why are you playing the seed kind of in general at the start seemed kind of iffy their mechanics were top tier nothing made me think that like they didn’t deserve a time like this after

Run one what are you thinking real fake unsure how confident are you in your guests i am unsure i think there are things to be subs of but there’s like i said there’s nothing concrete not crafting an anchor was kind of weird but sometimes you just kind of not remember

Those things i mentioned i think it stables with the the chest with the two hoglands but i think that makes sense so i think the weirdest thing to me is just kind of why did you play this seed in the first place with the dolphins other than that everything everything kind of

Made sense live split again so on old runs so we gotta expect some old strats okay sure sure dandelions oh my god we’re in 2020 aren’t using fabric api that’s it’s fake so kind of same situation here is the last seed why are you playing this like literally what

What are you looking for here the gameplay skill disparity between this run and the last round is very very apparent this one’s not gonna be cheated and then nerdy we’re gonna get to the third run and it’s gonna look like it wasn’t cheated and then i’m gonna have

No idea they’re going to the ocean this option this ocean also looks like it just sucks everything about the stage looks bad to me would you say a seed looking bad is that a sign of fake run or a sign of something legit in your opinion it could be just someone not

Knowing how to play the game or like reset at least maybe they’re just like not really trying to like go for the bestie they’re just kind of seeing what works okay oh my god the ancient crafting lore no there’s no way i mean maybe but if this is a really

Good time and their mechanics aren’t there it could be like injected seed i don’t i don’t know versus mechanics are just not there though shield craft pre-nether definitely interesting i guess probably not unheard of for someone with a 16 pb but definitely a little bit weird especially if they just

Like spawn on a fort here i i don’t know how they went straight to this lava point i didn’t really think about that they cut this one straight to this but i don’t know if that’s us i probably should have paid more attention if we’re comparing the two right now and it was

Just two i would definitely say this run would be the cheetah run just because there was no attempt to pause for like trunks to low there was kind of like a see like are they going to do it here like i don’t know what’s happening yeah this is definitely a little bit fishy

They’re just kind of ready to go straight into a spawner using a shield there’s kind of a red flag why do you pre-craft a shield who does that who pre-crafts a shield i don’t even think people who use shield’s pre-craft shield erain finds it 65 probably stables the

Render’s on 24 right now though so that bastion could be kind of far definitely weirder than the second run i don’t necessarily think it’s fake off at that just like the spawn in general like a better seed spawn makes me more sus too like i definitely think this run is more

Fishy than the last one so far though that’s shield craft definitely i was eyeing that probably not unheard of for someone not really going for world record either this is us or he’s playing it wrong running this way good terrain navigation for sure good use of planar fog pretty solid so far

What are they doing i don’t know why they do that again i’m being honest it looks like they’re trying to make it seem like they don’t know where it is it seems like maybe on the e-ray they’re trying a little too hard kind of floby-esque to make it be like hmm yes

I’m definitely iran here like i am i am showing you the viewer what is happening interesting curious how this person plays this with no gold armor this is definitely interesting i’ve never seen anyone do that before i’m kind of rap we doing oh we’re just dropping straight

Down not even changing it to hard i’ve never seen anything like this yeah the mechanics are just not there i don’t know but the actual like run doesn’t look cheated like it’s a good seed maybe if it’s a sick blind or something like an eye spy would make me like suss out a

Little bit why are you not grabbing crying obsidian it’s kind of weird it looks like they kind of just opened that chest to be like hey look i’m opening this chest you know you can’t say that it’s weird that i didn’t open it because i did open it very very fishy

That’s not good okay this is like i spy oh they’re just going for it this can’t i spy there’s no uh they didn’t go back and check the trades which was weird probably figuring if they get any semi-decent blind it’s uh it’s probably probably pb so respect it going for this

Rune portal i i don’t know what they could possibly get in this room portal that would be useful to them there’s not even a chest okay they’re going like so off their angle right now nothing is suspicious really to me about the blinds and like the distance from the

Stronghold at least like they didn’t really make it seem suspicious like this would be a lot more suspicious solid terrain nav to be totally fair very solid terrain of not happy that they’re still holding a shield but what can you do i don’t like how they’re pressing

Like they were pressing f3 all the time it made me think that like they were trying to like see where the stronghold was because they seem to just press it for like no reason yeah like why did i keep pressing it yeah like see they’re going off their line maybe a little bit

There to throw another eye or not or not okay it’s fine too it still looks fine i don’t know i keep thinking like i kind of want to throw i kind of want to throw and then they’re just not why are you crafting your beds now very weird unless

This eye’s gonna do oh because they’re gonna sleep okay a very interesting change between like high rolly low rolly play yeah it does go to the right i was right okay it’s a little bit weird how he threw an eye and it was like already close to the stronghold it kind of makes

Me think that he already knew it was here it’s too much like rough uncertainty in the play for it to be cheated this nav is actually going to be a really really big part of this run the fortress seemed very very preemptive so i’m interested to see if they kind of

Play this similar to the fortress and just really beeline where they’re going to have to go very interesting they knew the exact y level but that could just be a coincidence okay they don’t be line library this is actually pretty standard stronghold nav there’s just like too much inexperience for it to be

Sus i don’t think this is cheated there wouldn’t be nearly as many mistakes also if it was cheated i don’t know how you could submit a cheated run and have it be like sloppy there’s just no way so i think it’s real i hope they pb unless

It’s fake and i hope they get found out yeah wouldn’t that cry and obvi be really helpful now huh this one honestly looks really legit to me i don’t know if it’s more legit than the last one or less i don’t know if it’s more or less

Oh my god are they gonna get sub 15. it’s gonna be so close wait what is this one cycle huh what the heck where are we standing oh my god holy jeepers like every left bed does so much damage and every ripe bed did like nothing because of this setup happens i don’t

Think this is cheated how do the two runs compare which one do you think is more suspicious i think this is faker i think this is way more suspicious between the first two which would you say is more suspicious or are they just both real i would say the

First one is probably a little bit more but i can see i think they’re probably pretty equal like like i think they’re both legit like on first glance both real both fake i think i think both real there’s only one fake nerdy they can’t be bothered

I think they’re both real so far like they’ve both had the info gathering parts i’ve been talking about and like enough mistakes to where i wouldn’t like i mean if i cheated a run because obviously i have in the past right i wouldn’t submit them with the

Mistakes i’d treat them till they look good i think the shield craft pre-fortress is very very weird to me i think that i i didn’t catch it fully but i think they might have even like held right click when they were entering to make sure they like don’t get hit the

First one had more reasons to be suspicious because literally i think the only thing that like in this one that makes me feel suspicious is the pre-craft and i think you could just be bad and do that anyway so this is the first seed where i’m like yeah i would

Play this this makes sense this actually makes sense i like the pack jam in the bottom right genius not sure what they’re gonna look for out here maybe they saw a boat but this this makes much more sense to me than the last two runs so i don’t know what this person’s gonna

Have to do to mess that up but i’m i’m sure they might figure out something looks pretty average so far i mean it’s the start of the run you can’t really expect much i’m not sure what they saw but presumably they saw something maybe i think they might have been about there

This is like a seed people would at least check i feel like the oceans are kind of bad though not a deep ocean actually maybe people want to play this maybe they would check treasure or ship so they’ve all been cheated because nobody plays more motions anymore and

They’ve all had 11 iron ah this is such very disappointed they’re not going for the monument though i’ll survive i guess looks fine so far i mean i don’t really know where we were going for the enter potentially a little sauce whoa okay that was super unnecessary unless they’re gonna have to bridge

Somewhere later i don’t know why that would be the case because they’re gonna do bridge bastion doing slabs okay this person definitely knows what they’re doing without a doubt okay this person’s just showing off now i don’t know why this person made so many slabs you could maybe make half of

Them in this lab’s right now all of them gold pick sure two okay what the oh okay i didn’t realize with carrots i was like so lost on what was happening two gold pickaxes is kind of weird especially when like you kind of see the fortress like you know you’re

Not gonna have to dig anywhere right oh my god they almost died that was monka all the gold blocks again fine i mean maybe if it’s cheated you wouldn’t grab all the gold blocks the most sus thing is definitely the start of the run like booking it to the

Entry this is how i just imagine like most like decent runners look on the leaderboard okay that pearl right okay i’m pretty nice here curious if they’re gonna go for 20 obsidian or if they’re gonna play for the blind or they could go back to their home portal and do

Educate it that way are they really gonna leave on a string yeah i think i think leave it right away that’s not that’s not a good play i think what you could do is pearl hang do a pearl hang then go back and see if you got string i

Think that is the correct thing to do fortress knob i mean looks standard average fortress navigation in a wall to find the spawner i feel this person’s pain i wouldn’t dig down here first i would i would look over there yeah just because it’s easier to see okay two

Spawners sure with the string would you say that that’s sus or just bad it’s definitely i mean maybe they just aren’t looking and how much string they have you do need to keep track of like a few things so some runners just like neglect things you could at least mine out one

Of the spawners this one you could definitely get in a situation where you can mine out this spawner while activating that one that’s a little scary the most sus thing was the entry and then maybe the fact that this seat is just good like it’s definitely easier

To cheat like a good seat than is a bad seat but they’re still doing these info plays like they were looking for the spawners those weren’t b-line two oh nice one that’s really good i love when that happens these chords suck negative x positive z you want to go

Negative x and positive z you figured it out why are you going negative z and i mean whatever this is fine i guess lining here yeah that’s fine these chords are okay what the hell are we digging too high that’s fine i guess why are you blinding that like is this even

The rig can you even call this the ring it’s barely in the ring i feel like interesting blind spot i would at least use the gold pick to like get out or at least like go a little bit farther i respect the play to like super high roll

Here but i would at least use the gold pick to get a little bit closer no i throw yet i don’t know why we’re building up should have a boat right what is happening and they had plenty of gold to like make gold fill like you already had gold pigs they could have

Made more gold picks right did they even have one do they even followed i don’t even remember they don’t even have string like what is this i don’t know how we’re blinding at like 10. i don’t know where the time-lapse was getting to the chalice was weird i guess not

Changing resistance to get a dolphin is really like weird didn’t even go for the uh what i definitely think the first two runs are much fisher than this one so far but something weird could still happen some weird stronghold shenanigans still need string it looks like they

They know that they need string or like wool because they were otherwise i would have just gone straight into the stronghold because i don’t even know if that was a stronghold i’m assuming it was that was yeah that was the truth okay it was okay so yeah okay they like

Immediately so like they’re aware that they needed it oh three drop he’s cheating because he has the sheep drop rates geez so they probably knew from the get-go that like they were gonna have to do this i don’t know why they don’t didn’t wait for australia i

Think this is just a bad play because i definitely i definitely see runners doing this this is definitely like it’s like a rookie mistake what the half hour pearl with the mobs so ballsy there’s literally food in your there’s pork chop in the top middle of

Your inventory not eating here is like a crime because there’s literally no reason to not just shove the three pork chops in your face why are you doing this you can just eat the pork chop do not know you have them just use the pearl thank you this is actually gonna

Be important this nav backwards see if they see it okay that’s starter and you know that’s dead so it has to be top left library oh solid do they have an anchor let’s find out oh now they don’t so i’m assuming they didn’t close them oh they could

Have what are they what is up with everyone hating anchors okay okay standard dude i don’t know top right wall upright well for bed nevermind and that’s the four bed thenx would not finish it first looking at the floor bed just forgot the wall in the top right large perch oh whoa aggressive

Lag 15 minute line well good height oh rough there’s no way they can actually get this do they there’s no way they kill the dragon with that okay what the heck that is low and is that a turnaround oh my gosh the four ben x and the turnaround halfway through can you

Even ask this dude one two three four wow that’s so close oh my god i would never make it that close in a pb oh my god so you’ve seen all three runs firstly how does run three compare to the previous two i think it was less fishy i

Think the overworld actually made some sense to play i think the nether was really good i think a lot of their movements were felt very genuine i think it was a a pretty standard run besides the wall issue i think this one’s very straightforward like this was just like

A very straightforward run nothing about it seems less other than a string and i think people just make that mistake in general so i don’t think anything julie says about that run none of the runs this one included like scream fake like there were info plays in all of them so

Curry way you’ve seen all three runs one of them is fake which do you think is the odd run out i think the odd run out is run number two and what is your final reasoning i think their gameplay just didn’t feel as smooth as the other two runners i feel like

It was a little bit weird the shield thing really threw me off i don’t know why they played the seed in the beginning it made no sense they just ripped their render up to play this like random ocean that you could get a much better seat on crafting that

Shield for fortress first and then spawning in the fortress very weird and then the sleeping right before this is less so but sleeping right before throwing an eye and then having the eye go like a completely different direction very interesting i think i think mainly the shield and the plane the overwhelm i

Think i’m gonna say the third run actually just because the entire game play just looks more sus so either it’s like a really bad runner trying to cheat a good time like just the whole slab thing is weird the double gold pick here on the bridge is weird so

Either it’s a really good runner or a bad runner trying to cheat a good time or it’s just someone bad stumbling on a really really good scene i don’t know i think i’m gonna go with the third one though i think a third one just had like misplays but nothing suspicious like it

Had missed plays definitely but there’s nothing like suspicious about the misplaced they’re just misplaced that just people make i think what makes the first two suspicious like way more so than the third run is that they just got it seemed like there were cases where they knew this year already the

The pre-crafting you just don’t do that it seemed like they were kind of like pretending to not know where the bastion was but also maybe they’re just not good at finding stuff honestly i think i’m leaning towards the second run and the reveal the odd run out the fake run is run

Number three wow it is run number three i i myself ran run number three with a random generic name mc skin and the fake run is run number three i hate to say it i hate to say it but i was the runner for run number three i found a seed on

Speedrun.com and i ran it and i tried to find a linear c to make it tricky i honestly didn’t know how hard it was gonna be so it seemed like it was way harder than i meant it to be the odd run out is run number three correct good job feinberg

It was me i ran this this is a random 15x seat or something that i thought would be easy to cheat and actually you are the first person to get it right of the three people both illumina and curry guessed run number two actually they guessed run

Two yeah that was dude one two look oh real to me i don’t know like just happy i got it but i i definitely felt like a 50 50 at the end i kind of just yeah the scene it looks better and the run looks worse