The biggest cheating scandal in Minecraft speedrunning history just went down a new world record was pulled off one that shattered everyone’s expectations but its legitimacy quickly came into question on top of that questions about this run led to an investigation of several past world records and other accomplished speedrunners this one run irreparably Changed the face of an entire speedrunning Community but before we get into the details let’s start the story at the beginning on February 8 2023 xylenox beat Minecraft Java Edition on a random seed in 7 minutes and 45 seconds while we don’t know yet how long this world record will stand before it’s Beaten it’s undoubtedly one of the most unbeatable records the game has ever seen it beat the previous world record in 815 by dugyl by 30 seconds a massive time cut for being this deep into the game’s Evolution only one Runner that we know of has come close to beating it the Camo 6 who beat the game in 8 minutes flat on May 28th so in Java edition only one Runner has really really challenged xylenox’s record in the almost four months since it was set but what about Bedrock Edition well the Bedrock Community has had a flurry of activity Lately with three World Records being set in March and April bringing the record down to 8 54 by Danny 15. that’s over a minute slower than the Java record and it seemed like the days when Bedrock Runners held the overall random seed glitchless record were over what no One could have seen coming was what happened on May 21st 2023 in the fight for the overall world record Bedrock was on the floor of the wrestling ring pinned down by xylenox but just when all hope seemed lost a challenger resurfaced LOL 869 former Bedrock world record Holder and owner of the second fastest run in Bedrock history descended from the Heavens to pick Bedrock off the floor and then the things he did to Java in this metaphorical wrestling match I’ll spare you the gruesome details because not only did LOL 869 beat the Bedrock world record not only did he Beat the Java world record and reclaimed the overall world record but he beat them both by so much that it’s hard to even believe this could still happen in 2023 I’m talking in unprecedented time cut in the late stages of the progression of the Minecraft world record this is the fastest speedrun in The history of Minecraft RSG this is LOL 869’s 645 and the thing is we don’t even know if it was real May 21st 2023 it’s 1 46 PM in Ireland and LOL 869 has just killed the dragon and passed through the exit portal he’s offline and so at this point the only Person who knows about the run is him in typical LOL 869 fashion he lays low for a little bit he doesn’t typically stream his runs in fact the last time he set a world record he didn’t even upload the Run publicly for several days instead waiting for it to be verified first 41 Minutes pass before he notifies anyone of his accomplishment announcing the run on a Minecraft Bedrock speedrunning Discord server at first people think he can’t be serious 6 minutes and 45 seconds is over two minutes faster than the previous Bedrock world record but forget that it’s completely unprecedented for any version of the Game it has to be a joke but once the videos posted the community is forced to take this run seriously so before we really get to the core of whether or not this run is fake let’s do just that take it seriously the disadvantages and advantages of Bedrock speedrunning essentially boil down to This you’re less likely to roll a playable seed than on Java but on the tiny chance you do the potential of those really good seeds surpasses even the best java seeds it all comes down to how close you can spawn to the stronghold as you might know strongholds And Java generate at the absolute closest 1280 blocks from the zero zero coordinates at the center of the world the closest to other strongholds also generate in this ring up to 2816 blocks away as the player you’re going to spawn somewhere near zero zero give or take a Few dozen blocks depending on the nearby terrain so to get to the stronghold you need to travel pretty far over the course of the Run you’re also going to need extra under eyes to determine its location and even if Innovations like the ninja brain bot have made doing so Easier it’s still more time you have to spend Gathering extra pearls and blaze powder in Bedrock Edition the nearest strongholds to zero zero are a tiny bit closer on average but still very very far the difference is that Bedrock players don’t necessarily spawn anywhere near the center of the world unlike in Java where you can spawn pretty much any place besides the middle of the ocean bedrock’s code only allows spawning in four biomes the forest the Jungle the Plains and the Taiga so if the initial coordinates usually x-44z4 in Bedrock aren’t in one of those biomes the game will change your X-coordinate four blocks at a time until it reaches a spawnable bio the goal for Bedrock players like lol 869 is to find a world where the nearest spawnable biome is about a thousand blocks away in the X Direction giving them a chance to spawn right next to a stronghold of Course A lot has to go right to get one of these seeds and so the only solution is tons of resetting to make this a little easier LOL 869 created a resource pack and macro called fastest resets which not only simplifies the menu screen for faster World creation but Also automatically resets worlds based on their coordinates which makes finding a seed close to a stronghold a lot faster in recent months LOL 869 and several other major Bedrock Runners are known to have used this pack however speedrun.com moderators recently discovered that by modifying this resource pack it could hypothetically be Possible for a runner to undetectably inject a pre-selected seed any world record especially one as unprecedented as this one warrants a healthy amount of skepticism but here was legitimate reason to think LOL 869 Could Have Cheated by playing on a seed he’d already scouted and practiced to be Clear this isn’t an accusation at this point it’s just a possibility to get the full picture we’ll have to watch The Run itself LOL 869 spawns in at x-coordinate 1020 literally right on top of a village which is about as good a spawn as you Can get he’s far enough out to find a stronghold but he’s also close enough to the center of the world that the nearest strongholds might be one of the closest three to zero zero that’s important because those three strongholds usually correspond with the locations of villages on the surface Ensure short There’s about a 15 chance that there will be a stronghold right underneath a village in this coordinate range and though those might not seem like great odds they’re higher than anywhere else if you’re trying to shatter records any chance to enter the stronghold right at Spawn is too good to not try the first thing LOL 869 does is grab obsidian iron armor a pickaxe some food and gold ingots from the blacksmiths there are two after that he digs down and kills the Golem which drops for iron While most Runners would grab some beds from The Village at this point LOL 869 interestingly doesn’t he’ll need them eventually to complete the one cycle but he’s counting on getting string from piglens at a Bastion instead which he’ll craft into wool this means that out of the three major Bedrock Edition strategies for getting pearls classic Strats where you get pearls from randomly spawning piglets away from a Bastion warped strats where you get pearls from Enderman in a warped forest and Hyper modern where you trade with piglens in a Bastion he’s basically confining himself to the last one it’s a bit of a gamble as there’s no guarantee He finds a Bastion at this point but if it pays off hyper modern is Gen generally the fastest approach and the one used in virtually all recent World Records he makes a bucket and some tools including a golden ax takes some more food and then just 55 seconds into the Run he starts digging down towards the stronghold remember at these coordinates there’s only a 15 chance for a stronghold to even exist but this time he gets lucky the strongholds exposed in a ravine saving him some digging and he mines right into the starter staircase LOL 869’s stronghold navigation is Lightning fast using his knowledge of hidden rooms to dig through a wall to a hallway which luckily enough leads straight to the portal room from here he can use the lava pools in the corners to build another portal an interesting mistake LOL 869 makes here is not using The seven obsidian from the village to build most of the nether portal instead using the more time consuming method of placing water and lava it’s definitely not a massive time loss but in a category where a few seconds has been the world record margin in the past There’s no logical reason to do what lol 869 does let’s say for the sake of argument that LOL 869 did secretly inject this seed and practice it beforehand blacksmith’s chest salute is one of the few things that is randomized every time you generate a seed even if You’re generating the same seed so if he theoretically did cheat and practice the seed in advance he might not have gotten the obsidian from that chest the decision not to use the obsidian suggests that he might have been used to not using obsidian in his scouted route And just stuck to the plan when he got some anyway this is very far from incriminating it could easily have been an honest mistake but it’s something to keep in mind LOL 869 enters the nether at 1 minute and 51 seconds the second fastest Pace ever to this point right Next to the portal there’s a bridge Bastion he runs through it to reach the golden pig statue and starts throwing ingots to the piglets once he’s mined all the gold blocks he starts placing some down and breaking them again since Bedrock piglens instantly finish their trades when a gold block is broken Nearby he gets all the pearls he needs pretty quickly but not getting beds earlier comes back to haunt him it takes about 30 more seconds for the piglens to trade enough string for him to craft three beds LOL 869 then pearls across a lava lake to the nether fortress going 6 For 8 on blaze rods all from stray blazes not lucky enough to be suspicious but lucky enough to keep him on an insane Pace at this point he heads back to the nether portal and re-enters the Overworld a full two minutes and 18 seconds faster than Danny 15 in his World record entering the end the dragon perches immediately and LOL 869 goes in for the one cycle he lands a few melee hits on the dragon’s neck then builds a lava flow Tower to prevent the dragon from flying away once he starts to blow up the beds three bed explosions later It’s all over he dies in the exit portal but he’s killed the dragon and that’s all that matters well that and whether or not the Run was faked shortly after the run LOL 869 sent the mods his world file and a 10 minute recording of the run and the resets directly preceding it But no recording of the full session in verifying a run one of the first things mods will check for are any potential splices but despite a few points of Suspicion and none were found this was an uncut run and if it was cheated it would have been by injecting a seed Which as mentioned earlier could have been done by modifying the faster resets pack without any visible changes to the world loading screen there’s just no way to know for sure for what it’s worth LOL 869 hasn’t recorded many previous runs that might give him the benefit of the Doubt he claims an unrecorded PB of 1410 as well as over 23 000 seeds reset during the grind for the record but the only previous single-player RSG run of his available to the public is his 859 former world record which similarly came out of nowhere the question at this Point was what to do with the other world records set by other Runners over the previous two months using the same faster resets pack one option would just be to let them stand it wouldn’t be the first time this has happened years ago when speedrunning as a community was in Its infancy and it was a lot more difficult to record and send gameplay footage than it is now the way people kept track of new record words was just to take runner’s word for it if someone’s hard work over weeks and months and years has culminated in a Record even if they don’t have the hard proof to show for it maybe we should just let them enjoy it but on the other hand as speedrunning has grown and evolved the honor System might not fit anymore when you’ve got hundreds of active Runners competing in a game and Millions more watching at home we might have more of a responsibility to ensure that what people are seeing is beyond a reasonable doubt real if we say it’s cruel to Rob one Runner of the record could it not be just as bad to leave someone else’s hard work and skill in Second place because they’ve been beaten by a run that could for all we know be cheated in the end the mod team decided to ban all resource packs including faster resets in all future runs because of the potential to alter code in these packs to inject seeds in addition all Future Runners submitting a top 5 leaderboard time will be required to include their global resources in their recording immediately after the conclusion of the Run however they stop short of invalidating the previous runs set using the faster resets pack Danny 15’s 859 is now listed as the official 1.16 RSG Bedrock world record and interestingly enough LOL 869’s second place run remains on the leaderboard as well in their official statement the mods concluded that just because LOL 869’s run used a resource pack and macro that could be modified to cheetah run didn’t necessarily mean that it was his Original intent rather they emphasized that LOL 869 was a valued member of the community and would be allowed to submit leaderboard runs in the future provided that they conform to the new resource pack rules however LOL 869 645 was simply impossible to verify if you liked This video and want to learn more about the race to develop new strategies and beat Minecraft as fast as possible across all categories and versions plus hear about notorious cheaters and the mods working to catch them in the ACT be sure to subscribe to the channel to see More content just like this we’d like to thank Gucci gang lulaku and Danny 15 for all their help with the research for this video as well as the entire Minecraft speedrun.com moderation team whose work does not go unappreciated as always thank you so much for watching Leave a like if you enjoyed make sure to comment what you’d like to see next from the channel and we’ll see you in the next one foreign foreign Video Information
This video, titled ‘Was The New Minecraft World Record FAKE?’, was uploaded by The Weekly Thing on 2023-06-09 15:00:08. It has garnered 412840 views and 13951 likes. The duration of the video is 00:14:01 or 841 seconds.
In this video, we look into whether the fastest Random Seed speedrun in Minecraft World Record history, a 6:45 by lol869, was faked.
The original run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCmHmOWm47U&t=378s
Other Footage Credits: lol869: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGGqqY7kbrFd_uuvsvMiHyA/videos?view=0&sort=p Danny15: https://www.youtube.com/@Danny15/videos Zylenox: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFbXCm4VRyg&ab_channel=zylenox Grass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DYIvJETTDE&ab_channel=doog IanG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvq2VI-cHJo&ab_channel=IanG KiwiestBirb: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYH6-EBZ6go&ab_channel=KiwiestBirb
Music Credits: Foewi – Close Better Days Foewi – Negative Gravity HOME – Tides Mass Effect – Galaxy Theme
Outro prod. NickHitt Beats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLZ0IxEtnU&ab_channel=NickHittBeats
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This is not the story of a Minecraft player who possibly cheated to get a faked Minecraft speedrun world record, and not the story of their friend who also did not cheat to get a faked Minecraft speedrun world record. Fake Minecraft speedruns are insane, almost as insane as this description! If you want to see a fake cheated Minecraft 1.16 world record speedrun, this is not the video for you!
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